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  • Pixtech Frameworks
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    Mpc2003 faint colour pattern

    Hi Everyone,
    I have a customer Ricoh MPC2003 on which CYMK are faint. I have force toner supply, TD initialization, changed toner to OEM, Color Registration, Auto Calibration, yet no solution. Attached is a copy of colour pattern for your view.
    Does anyone knows what could be cause?.
    Thanks.
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  • mga
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    #2
    Re: Mpc2003 faint colour pattern

    Originally posted by Pixtech Frameworks
    Hi Everyone,
    I have a customer Ricoh MPC2003 on which CYMK are faint. I have force toner supply, TD initialization, changed toner to OEM, Color Registration, Auto Calibration, yet no solution. Attached is a copy of colour pattern for your view.
    Does anyone knows what could be cause?.
    Thanks.
    What's pm parts life
    Regards Mark

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    • copier tech
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      #3
      Re: Mpc2003 faint colour pattern

      Originally posted by Pixtech Frameworks
      Hi Everyone,
      I have a customer Ricoh MPC2003 on which CYMK are faint. I have force toner supply, TD initialization, changed toner to OEM, Color Registration, Auto Calibration, yet no solution. Attached is a copy of colour pattern for your view.
      Does anyone knows what could be cause?.
      Thanks.

      PCU life on the C2003/C2503 are only 60k check the PM life as Mark suggested.
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      • slimslob
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        Re: Mpc2003 faint colour pattern

        Your sample appears to be very weak on the yellow to the point where at first glance it appeared to be completely missing. You made no mention of whether you cleaned anything. Dust is your enemy. If you ran Auto Color Calibration in User Tools - Maintenance without first cleaning all the mirrors, the lamp and lamp reflector you wasted time. You also need to clean the Image Density sensor assembly and the laser shield glasses for all PCU. If the C2003 is not properly kept clean, you cannot expect good color quality.

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        • tsbservice
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          #5
          Re: Mpc2003 faint colour pattern

          Originally posted by Pixtech Frameworks
          Hi Everyone,
          I have a customer Ricoh MPC2003 on which CYMK are faint. I have force toner supply, TD initialization, changed toner to OEM, Color Registration, Auto Calibration, yet no solution. Attached is a copy of colour pattern for your view.
          Does anyone knows what could be cause?.
          Thanks.
          Changed toner to OEM usually means your developers are gone thus faint colors
          A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
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          • slimslob
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            Re: Mpc2003 faint colour pattern

            Originally posted by tsbservice
            Changed toner to OEM usually means your developers are gone thus faint colors
            But is it just OEM or Genuine Ricoh. OEM does not guarantee the quality of ingredients or production that Genuine does.

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            • mga
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              Re: Mpc2003 faint colour pattern

              Originally posted by slimslob
              But is it just OEM or Genuine Ricoh. OEM does not guarantee the quality of ingredients or production that Genuine does.
              Every one is different on wording I say oem meaning genuine and compatible as fake
              Regards Mark

              FOR TRADE AND END USER SERVICE CALLS PLEASE VISIT WEB SITE FOR CONTACT DETAILS. COVERING GREATER LONDON {UK} AND ALL SURROUNDING COUNTIES.

              RICOH, CANON, KYOCERA, KONICA, SHARP, HP/SAMSUNG BROTHER, LEXMARK.

              https://copierservices.simdif.com

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              • tsbservice
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                Re: Mpc2003 faint colour pattern

                Originally posted by mga
                Every one is different on wording I say oem meaning genuine and compatible as fake
                Same here Mark.
                A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
                Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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                • tsbservice
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                  Re: Mpc2003 faint colour pattern

                  Originally posted by slimslob
                  But is it just OEM or Genuine Ricoh. OEM does not guarantee the quality of ingredients or production that Genuine does.
                  Got it Slim. I meant OP stated that fake toner is out of machine now which in therms damaged/contaminated developer so by-by print quality.
                  A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
                  Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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                  • slimslob
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                    Re: Mpc2003 faint colour pattern

                    Originally posted by mga
                    Every one is different on wording I say oem meaning genuine and compatible as fake
                    If it is made by or under contract for Ricoh it will say Genuine Ricoh. The term OEM is used by after market sellers to mislead people into buying their product. OEM merely mean that the basic components follow the recipe list but does not guarantee quality or particle size of those ingredients.

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                    • Pixtech Frameworks
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                      #11
                      Re: Mpc2003 faint colour pattern

                      Mirror has been cleaned still the same.
                      I tried line adjustment mode c and a, both failed. Later auto Calibration and color Registration failed.

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                      • Pixtech Frameworks
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                        #12
                        Re: Mpc2003 faint colour pattern

                        OPC Drum changed recently to OEM drum quality, still the same.

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                        • copier tech
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                          #13
                          Re: Mpc2003 faint colour pattern

                          Originally posted by Pixtech Frameworks
                          OPC Drum changed recently to OEM drum quality, still the same.


                          Which PCU did you replace?


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                          • Phil B.
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                            #14
                            Re: Mpc2003 faint colour pattern

                            Originally posted by Pixtech Frameworks
                            OPC Drum changed recently to OEM drum quality, still the same.
                            unless you deplete the crap toner in a development unit you will continue to have problems .. in fact you may need to replace them too.

                            using turdparty toners only causes more problems down the line.

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                            • slimslob
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                              Re: Mpc2003 faint colour pattern

                              Originally posted by Pixtech Frameworks
                              Mirror has been cleaned still the same.
                              I tried line adjustment mode c and a, both failed. Later auto Calibration and color Registration failed.
                              That usually means a dirty or damaged ID sensor.

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