Next generation MP 301

[ABS tect]

Hey all, if you've read any of my old stuff you know I'm usually behind on the latest models as I stick to refurbished equipment over new.

I have gone from ricoh mp 1515, to 161,171,201,301 and now I'm asking where to go next. I like these units: toner yield/price, footprint, etc....

Wasn't sure if I should look at the 401 or not, looked to me like a different lineup and all i could find as a replacement for the 301 was the IM 350. Is there something before this machine?

Thanks.

[slimslob]

Re: Next generation MP 301

Let's see. If you go to ricoh-usa, click on drivers and software under Support and Downloads. From that screen select Printers and copiers for category and for Sub category select Multifunction printers/copiers. Models will then give a full list that you can scroll through. It appears that for entry level models after the MP 301SPF you have an MP 401SPF, MP 402SPF, MP 501SPF and an MP 601SPF so take your pick.

[ABS tect]

Re: Next generation MP 301

Let's see. If you go to ricoh-usa, click on drivers and software under Support and Downloads. From that screen select Printers and copiers for category and for Sub category select Multifunction printers/copiers. Models will then give a full list that you can scroll through. It appears that for entry level models after the MP 301SPF you have an MP 401SPF, MP 402SPF, MP 501SPF and an MP 601SPF so take your pick.

Thank you Slim that's exactly what I was looking for. Really appreciate it.

You know I have to ask... What's your take on the 401?

[slimslob]

Re: Next generation MP 301

Thank you Slim that's exactly what I was looking for. Really appreciate it.

You know I have to ask... What's your take on the 401?

I avoid entry level models. Not enough money to make them worthwhile. But I understand that they have modified the development unit to prevent premature failures

[KenB]

Re: Next generation MP 301

Typically, these entry-level models struggle with enabling solutions, such as GlobalScan and the like.

They (meaning any of the “A4” or “tabletop” machines) just don’t seem to have enough oomph to support any additional software.

I once had a customer with a fleet of MP C4503s and MP C305s, and all we’re running Streamline.

Almost no issues with the 4503s, and boatloads of problems with the 305s, including (but not limited to) failure to install correctly, Java issues, and more SC-899 codes than you could count.

I realize that most customers don’t run any of these softwares, but when they do, it’s no picnic with the smaller machines.

[rthonpm]

Re: Next generation MP 301

Used to love the LD015 and 16 machines since I knew that after install, I'd probably never have to see the machine again for a service call for a couple of years. In the right environment they were really good boxes. In our office now we still have an MP 171 that's chugging away without an issue.



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[anothertech]

Re: Next generation MP 301

The MP 401's and 402's have turned out to be great machines. Updated firmware and the new style drums have solved the early issues.

The 401's have the older style display like the 301's, they're fine if not running solutions like Streamline.

402's have the smart panel, newer style controller, faster CPU and more RAM. They are a better choice if running things like Streamline.

[TonerMunkeh]

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One thing I will say about this new line of LED printers - if you are planning to put any of them into customers that are, shall we say, knuckle-dragging neanderthals, DON'T. They are very easily broken by chimps who don't know how to install a toner or take a run up when putting the drum unit back in.

[COPIERMAN]

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i like the MP501. We have put a few out there seem to be solid copier.

[mga]

Re: Next generation MP 301

Hey all, if you've read any of my old stuff you know I'm usually behind on the latest models as I stick to refurbished equipment over new.

I have gone from ricoh mp 1515, to 161,171,201,301 and now I'm asking where to go next. I like these units: toner yield/price, footprint, etc....

Wasn't sure if I should look at the 401 or not, looked to me like a different lineup and all i could find as a replacement for the 301 was the IM 350. Is there something before this machine?

Thanks.

The next one after mp301 is mp305 its a ricoh the mp401 etc are Kyocera

[anothertech]

Re: Next generation MP 301

The next one after mp301 is mp305 its a ricoh the mp401 etc are Kyocera

I've got about ten MP 305's out at a nursing home. They've been good machines. They are small machines but one good little extra about them is they can run 11x17 through the ARDF and the bypass tray.

[Klydon]

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401 and 402 have been ok after the initial batch of PCDU issues with them. Agree that customers that are rough with machines are not a good fit. Linkage from the door to the led array is fragile and I have had to replace a link a couple of times.

The MP501 is not a native Ricoh machine (Kyocera I think). I have a bunch of them and I do not like them at all. Fusers don't go as far as they are supposed to and same with PCDU's. If you are in an environment that doesn't run a lot of volume, then they are not bad, but run any volume on them and they are a hot mess. Tray lift gear breaks on the machine side and you have to replace that entire rail (post supporting the lifting gear breaks in two places). Service mode is very limited since it isn't a Ricoh built machine. Jamming at the registration is a thing as well. Sensors need constant cleaning from paper dust. The entire machine is very difficult to work on for those used to working on Ricoh products.

I have limited exposure to MP305. My impression isn't a good one however. I think the machine is average at best and from a processor standpoint of view, it is slooowwww. I don't see Ricoh coming out with another version or family member of this machine.

IM350 is the designated replacement for a MP301. We have a ton of these and they are downstream of the MP401-402 series and have appeared to incorporate lessons learned from the earlier machines. Been a very solid machine and the processor is very fast for its class.

[Polarbear]

Re: Next generation MP 301

The MP 401's and 402's have turned out to be great machines. Updated firmware and the new style drums have solved the early issues.

The 401's have the older style display like the 301's, they're fine if not running solutions like Streamline.

402's have the smart panel, newer style controller, faster CPU and more RAM. They are a better choice if running things like Streamline.

Anothertech, do your pcu units make yield?

We find that a lot of these don't as they start printing background and streaks long before their due date.
This makes for not a very cost effective model.

Also the toner and pcu contacts on the machine frame fail regularly.

The IM350 which in our market, replaced the MP402, seems to have fixed a lot of the issues we had before.

I agree on the LED array mech being fragile. The SP4520 (printer version) uses the same engine, and the couriers where they are installed, love breaking them. It is a PITA to repair.

[anothertech]

Re: Next generation MP 301

The MP301 PCU's usually don't make yield, although they did just come out with a new style PCU, jury is still out on that.

MP401 and MP402 PCU's go the distance. Make sure you have the current firmware. I imagine that all of the old style drums are gone by now. The new style drums last longer and run cleaner.

I did have a few LED array problems on the MP401's, but nothing much to it. Train the customers to NOT remove the PCU.

The only toner contact problems I've seen were with the IM350.