Ricoh MP C4504 color registration issues

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  • cinelli
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2021
    • 2

    Ricoh MP C4504 color registration issues

    Ricoh MP C4504 color registration issue

    I have an MPC 4504 that fails when attempting colour registration. SP2111 C works fine for a course adjustment but fails on A or D. We have replaced the ITB and Cleaner, also the ID sensors. Ive also worked through all of the countermeasures listed in the service manual with no improvement. Now looking at replacing a possible laser unit, BCU or IOB. Has anybody else seen this before?
  • TonerMunkeh
    Professional Moron

    2,500+ Posts
    • Apr 2008
    • 3873

    #2
    Re: Ricoh MP C4504 color registration issues

    What sort of life are the drums and devs on? When you print out a test pattern does it look like any particular colour is out of registration more than the others?
    It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

    Hit it.

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    • sandmanmac
      Field Supervisor

      Site Contributor
      2,500+ Posts
      • Feb 2009
      • 3947

      #3
      Re: Ricoh MP C4504 color registration issues

      Many years ago there was a post from someone that I made note of, that I refer to as "Advanced Line position Adjustment".
      It was originally for really old machines like the MP C3500's, etc, but I used it several times through at least the '01 series colour units with success.

      Look for my post on this thread. While it didn't work in this case, it can't hurt to try.

      Ricoh MP C3300, info after Engine reset
      Last edited by sandmanmac; 06-18-2021, 04:11 PM.

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      • mga
        Copier Technician

        Site Contributor
        1,000+ Posts
        • Dec 2010
        • 1393

        #4
        Re: Ricoh MP C4504 color registration issues

        Originally posted by cinelli
        Ricoh MP C4504 color registration issue

        I have an MPC 4504 that fails when attempting colour registration. SP2111 C works fine for a course adjustment but fails on A or D. We have replaced the ITB and Cleaner, also the ID sensors. Ive also worked through all of the countermeasures listed in the service manual with no improvement. Now looking at replacing a possible laser unit, BCU or IOB. Has anybody else seen this before?
        Why would you start looking at pwb's what's the pm lifes start there 1st what's the copy quality like
        Regards Mark

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        • Phil B.
          Field Supervisor

          10,000+ Posts
          • Jul 2016
          • 22808

          #5
          Re: Ricoh MP C4504 color registration issues

          Originally posted by mga
          Why would you start looking at pwb's what's the pm lifes start there 1st what's the copy quality like
          because they don't think logically ....

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          • slimslob
            Retired

            Site Contributor
            25,000+ Posts
            • May 2013
            • 35067

            #6
            Re: Ricoh MP C4504 color registration issues

            Did you replace the entire ITB assembly or just the belt? Ricoh has had problems in the past with belts slipping on the assembly.

            When you replaced the ID sensor was it a new assemble or did you take it from another machine. A new assembly comes with a sticker that has the values for SP3-333, SP3-334 and SP3-335. If those are not correct you will get errors.

            You still have not answered TonerMunkeh's question. Drums or development units that need to be replaced will cause procon errors. Under toned developers will causes errors as the ID sensor cannot read the patches clearly.

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            • tavorh
              Technician
              • Sep 2016
              • 25

              #7
              Re: Ricoh MP C4504 color registration issues

              I have a similar problem, anyone have a solution or suggest?

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              • sandmanmac
                Field Supervisor

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                2,500+ Posts
                • Feb 2009
                • 3947

                #8
                Re: Ricoh MP C4504 color registration issues

                Originally posted by tavorh
                I have a similar problem, anyone have a solution or suggest?
                Yes, Several.... immediately above!
                What have you even done/ tried?

                Perhaps the original poster has found a solution, but he's apparently to selfish to share it

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                • mga
                  Copier Technician

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                  • Dec 2010
                  • 1393

                  #9
                  Re: Ricoh MP C4504 color registration issues

                  This week I had this problem the order that fixed it for me was force line adjustment c then a in that order then colour registration adjustment worked
                  Regards Mark

                  FOR TRADE AND END USER SERVICE CALLS PLEASE VISIT WEB SITE FOR CONTACT DETAILS. COVERING GREATER LONDON {UK} AND ALL SURROUNDING COUNTIES.

                  RICOH, CANON, KYOCERA, KONICA, SHARP, HP/SAMSUNG BROTHER, LEXMARK.

                  https://copierservices.simdif.com

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                  • tavorh
                    Technician
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 25

                    #10
                    Re: Ricoh MP C4504 color registration issues

                    I replaced the laser unit and ITB unit, also I did process: ''Ricoh MP C3300, info after Engine reset''

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                    • Phil B.
                      Field Supervisor

                      10,000+ Posts
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 22808

                      #11
                      Re: Ricoh MP C4504 color registration issues

                      Originally posted by tavorh
                      I replaced the laser unit and ITB unit, also I did process: ''Ricoh MP C3300, info after Engine reset''
                      Did you input the settings from the new laser?

                      Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

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                      • emiliorsg
                        Trusted Tech

                        100+ Posts
                        • Jul 2018
                        • 140

                        #12
                        Re: Ricoh MP C4504 color registration issues

                        I had a similar problem with a MP C2503 and the failure was caused by the pcu bk.

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                        • tavorh
                          Technician
                          • Sep 2016
                          • 25

                          #13
                          Re: Ricoh MP C4504 color registration issues

                          Originally posted by Phil B.
                          Did you input the settings from the new laser?

                          Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk


                          Not yet, I also installed an old laser. The customer only prints in black, wich is ok for now.

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