[Misc] Cleaning the Ricoh MP Colour series transfer belt

[satins]

Hi

I sit possible to clean the Ricoh MP Colour series transfer belt in an ultrasonic cleaner at 30 kHz Using a dishwasher?
Any suggestions?

Thank you for reading.

[Gift]

Re: Cleaning the Ricoh MP Colour series transfer belt

Why?

Never had any dirt problems with the belt - it lasts until it tears.

Guess wet cleaning, especially with warmn teperature might also loosen the mylars that are attached inside the belt at the outer endings.

[satins]

Re: Cleaning the Ricoh MP Colour series transfer belt

Why?

Never had any dirt problems with the belt - it lasts until it tears.

Guess wet cleaning, especially with warmn teperature might also loosen the mylars that are attached inside the belt at the outer endings.

We are in a process to refurbish a used Ricoh MP C2003.
Since it had accumulated a lot of dust in and around, we are thinking of doing so if it can help.
We did think about the mylars getting damaged but are unsure about its glue coming off, so believe its worth a try as we have to replace the Belt anyways.

[Gift]

Re: Cleaning the Ricoh MP Colour series transfer belt

We are in a process to refurbish a used Ricoh MP C2003.
Since it had accumulated a lot of dust in and around, we are thinking of doing so if it can help.
We did think about the mylars getting damaged but are unsure about its glue coming off, so believe its worth a try as we have to replace the Belt anyways.

We use compressed air (Datavac Duster) for refurb work. Back in the days (Aficio CL7000, AP3800C) the transfer belt assys needed way more attention & labour time to rework but I think that's not the case anymore.

[aAandy]

Re: Cleaning the Ricoh MP Colour series transfer belt

Hi

I sit possible to clean the Ricoh MP Colour series transfer belt in an ultrasonic cleaner at 30 kHz Using a dishwasher?
Any suggestions?

Thank you for reading.

the best way to clean a belt (or drum) is to polish it with "Silvo" - note, do NOT use 'Brasso' as it is significantly more abraisive

i don't know what it is called around the world, but here's an Aussie link
75g SILVO Silver Polish Wadding, Long Lasting,Jewellery : Amazon.com.au: Health, Household & Personal Care

[luca72]

Re: Cleaning the Ricoh MP Colour series transfer belt

Hi

I sit possible to clean the Ricoh MP Colour series transfer belt in an ultrasonic cleaner at 30 kHz Using a dishwasher?
Any suggestions?

Thank you for reading.

remove the itb-clean unit (screw x6),I prefer bland glass products, example the classic multipurpose,without remove the belt from the frame, just to remove with a light rag away that possible tiny oxide layer, more than anything else it is important to vacuum the belt cleaner well inside the blade

[luca72]

Re: Cleaning the Ricoh MP Colour series transfer belt

the best way to clean a belt (or drum) is to polish it with "Silvo" - note, do NOT use 'Brasso' as it is significantly more abraisive

i don't know what it is called around the world, but here's an Aussie link
75g SILVO Silver Polish Wadding, Long Lasting,Jewellery : Amazon.com.au: Health, Household & Personal Care

I have me, too similare one, at home... I use it for door handles. i never think of use this...it is not a little too rough the straw that is in the product for the belt, made at the end of plastic?... then I see that it contains hydrocarbons(?)


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[aAandy]

Re: Cleaning the Ricoh MP Colour series transfer belt

I have me, too similare one, at home... I use it for door handles. i never think of use this...it is not a little too rough the straw that is in the product for the belt, made at the end of plastic?... then I see that it contains hydrocarbons(?)


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i suspect the one you pictured is the 'brasso' variety, far too abrasive

in Australia there is Brasso designed for polishing brass which is rather abrasive and not to be used - silvo however is very much finer and is designed to polish silver, it is perfect for drums & ITB's, it also removes contamination from PCR rollers that nothing else will touch and the hydrocarbons do no damage - been using it for 35+ years

actually this is the one i use, i must have copied the wrong link earlier
Silvo 250ml Metalware Polish Cleaner - Bunnings Australia

and this is the one DO NOT USE
Brasso 250ml Metalware Polish - Bunnings Australia

[slimslob]

Re: Cleaning the Ricoh MP Colour series transfer belt

i suspect the one you pictured is the 'brasso' variety, far too abrasive

in Australia there is Brasso designed for polishing brass which is rather abrasive and not to be used - silvo however is very much finer and is designed to polish silver, it is perfect for drums & ITB's, it also removes contamination from PCR rollers that nothing else will touch and the hydrocarbons do no damage - been using it for 35+ years

actually this is the one i use, i must have copied the wrong link earlier
Silvo 250ml Metalware Polish Cleaner - Bunnings Australia

and this is the one DO NOT USE
Brasso 250ml Metalware Polish - Bunnings Australia

My experience has been that any cleaning the surface of the ITB belt needs is accomplished by the ITB cleaning unit. Remember the belt is not metal. Any type of metal ware cleaner can have an adverse affect on the surface from abrasion, chemical action and leaving a film. You also run the risk of releasing potential poisonous vapors.

[satins]

Re: Cleaning the Ricoh MP Colour series transfer belt

Thank you all for your suggestions, I appreciate.
Since, I have some discarded Transfer belts, I might do a test run with a dishwasher liquid.
It may damage the belt but I shall try and inform my results, accordingly with

1) respect to cleanliness,
2) Mylars condition and
3) Print condition (if the above two conditions are good).

If I am late I shall start a new thread to provide details.
Thank you.

[luca72]

Re: Cleaning the Ricoh MP Colour series transfer belt

Thank you all for your suggestions, I appreciate.
Since, I have some discarded Transfer belts, I might do a test run with a dishwasher liquid.
It may damage the belt but I shall try and inform my results, accordingly with

1) respect to cleanliness,
2) Mylars condition and
3) Print condition (if the above two conditions are good).

If I am late I shall start a new thread to provide details.
Thank you.

I wouldn't want to discourage you, but washing the ITB is practically useless work, it doesn't get any benefit.
it is more important to clean the itb cleaner ... to the limit

[fshead]

Re: Cleaning the Ricoh MP Colour series transfer belt

i have rebuilt some PIG mpc3003,mpc3503 units where there was cat hairs in the ITB cleaning unit.
1st i remove the sponge roller and clean it dry with clean paper towels.
and remove the cleaning unit and vacunm out banging it a bit to loosen everything.
And for the belt i lightly wipe it with a cloth with alcohol.
It will streak a bit but that will all wipe away.
I reassemble all and lub the belt with yellow toner at the ITB cleaning blade.

[satins]

Re: Cleaning the Ricoh MP Colour series transfer belt

Thank you all for your suggestions, I appreciate.
Since, I have some discarded Transfer belts, I might do a test run with a dishwasher liquid.
It may damage the belt but I shall try and inform my results, accordingly with

1) respect to cleanliness,
2) Mylars condition and
3) Print condition (if the above two conditions are good).

If I am late I shall start a new thread to provide details.
Thank you.

Just wanted to inform.
I did clean the old transfer belt with the ultrasonic cleaner and used liquid dishwasher solution.
The result were not very encouraging as it was only 15% better than manual cleaning.
Thanks.

[Gift]

Re: Cleaning the Ricoh MP Colour series transfer belt

15%

[fshead]

Re: Cleaning the Ricoh MP Colour series transfer belt

Just wanted to inform.
I did clean the old transfer belt with the ultrasonic cleaner and used liquid dishwasher solution.
The result were not very encouraging as it was only 15% better than manual cleaning.
Thanks.

i thought 16% would be possible???
Too many chemicals can cause issues down the road with life span of belt and cleaning unit...
I only clean them when i get that oily type look on them..