Ricoh 220 toner in a 1022?

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  • copyaction
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    • Oct 2007
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    #1

    Ricoh 220 toner in a 1022?

    I know the bottles are different but in a pinch has anyone ever refilled and used the Aficio 220 toner in a 1022?
  • Ollie1981
    Toner Monkey

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    • Mar 2008
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    #2
    Personally I wouldn't try it as the machines do take different types of PCUs.

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    • copyaction
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      #3
      Originally posted by Ollie1981
      Personally I wouldn't try it as the machines do take different types of PCUs.
      I thought that too, but some have used the same pcu interchanged by removing the plastic pin.

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      • Ollie1981
        Toner Monkey

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        • Mar 2008
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        #4
        I suppose it depends on what developer they fill the type 320 PCU with at the factory and whether it'd crap out when 1022 type toner is added to it.

        I know that the later Russians (2022/3022 etc) use the same developer (B121 9645) as goes in the Kir C2 (2015/2018). In fact the whole PCU is pretty much the same (same drum/blade/charge roller etc) apart from the fact that it isn't physically interchangeable between the two machine families. So I reckon you'd definately get away with decanting 2015 type toner into the larger 1022 bottle to go into a 1022/2022 etc.

        I'm thinking that maybe the type 320 PCU could possibly use the earlier Kir C1 (1015/1018) type developer (B039 9640) but as the Russian C1 parts manual doesn't list the individual parts of the PCU there's no way of knowing for absolute certain.

        Anyway, there was some guy on here a while ago saying that he uses a big bag of Bellini dev for everything and just measures out the required quantity and he swore blind that worked absolutely fine with everything.

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        • Eric1968
          Service Manager

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          • Jan 2009
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          #5
          But why do you want to try all this?

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          • TonerMunkeh
            Professional Moron

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            • Apr 2008
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            #6
            220 toner is probably cheaper than 1027.
            It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

            Hit it.

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            • copyaction
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              #7
              I'm just completely out of 1022 toner and have 2 customers that need it ASAP Monday, but I have plenty of 220 toner.
              So like I said I'm just in "a pinch" until Tuesday when my 1022 toner arrives.

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              • schooltech
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                • Jun 2008
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                #8
                You MAY be ok if they don't run but a few copies. I think you'll end up having some copy quality issues (some background) if they run quite a bit.

                I would just run to another account or something and borrow a bottle, then just split it between the customers by dumping it in their bottles, or just have the customers wait until Tuesday.

                You could end up replacing two PCU assemblies if the copies start looking crappy, and they cost just a bit more than some toner.

                I wouldn't do it.
                Bachelor of Science in Information Technology, Comptia A+, Comptia Network+

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                • copyaction
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                  #9
                  Exactly schooltech, that is why I was asking, because I don't want to ruin 2 pcu's.
                  Good idea about borrowing from another account.

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                  • donitw

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