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  • Mopar Freak
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • Apr 2008
    • 55
    #1

    Pound vs Index

    Hey Folks! Anyone know for sure if Index weight relates to glossy stock? I wrote awhile back about a MP2000 not wanting to feed glossy postcards thru the bypass. It turned out to be 70#. Specs say 43# max. The cust. wants to know if we have a printer capapble of handling 70# glossy postcards. I found the color copiers handle up to 67# and 140 index. Some of the blk & white printers sp 4100nl, 4210n, ap610 handle up to 90# index. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Kevin
    Tags: 513, cust, specifications
    • cobiray
      Passing Duplication Xpert

      1,000+ Posts
      • Mar 2008
      • 1199
      #2
      Because of this confusion and the fact that media labels don't always specify, I recommend that you use the G/m2 (grams per meter squared) weight when picking out paper. Half the time the customer doesn't know what they have and the other half they seem to be incorrect. I've used this with success, as I haven't had any media issues when customers select media based on their machine's specifications. There is a media conversion tool on the tscweb.net, but it's only as good as the info you are given.

      As far as the media handled, generally it seems the printers can handle a little bit heavier media. My assumption is that the paper path is shorter with less turns, allowing the less flexible stock to travel more consistently with less misfeeding.

      I'm not sure if you were asking a question or not, but I didn't get one out of your post. Sorry if I'm just being daft. It is a Monday.
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        • Mopar Freak
          Technician

          50+ Posts
          • Apr 2008
          • 55
          #3
          Thx for the reply, I found on the web that 43# bond should be equivelant to 90# index?

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            • Canadian Tech
              Too Long in this field
              • Feb 2009
              • 32
              #4
              Try the following lin for a conversion table:

              https://www.tscweb.net/ref/paper_conversion.asp
              Most of the time the operators need fixing, not the machine !!!

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                • Shadow1
                  Service Manager

                  Site Contributor
                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 1642
                  #5
                  The weight converter on TSCWeb is a good tool, and I agree with using g/m2 as a standard because a customer can say 20# paper and mean 20# index, cover, bond, etc.
                  But...
                  In my experience nearly all coated papers are "heavier" than their weight. For example, a customer with a MP6513 could not run supposedly in spec 40# enamel coated paper even in thick modes without A)offsetting toner and making a gooey mess and B)sucking up too much oil and gouging the heat roller.

                  MPC7500 runs this stock for him, but I had to play with the fuser temps because the paper would bubble (layers of the paper stock would separate and inflate into big bubbles like you sometimes see in a pizza crust) and the smell was awful.
                  73 DE W5SSJ

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