The Much Maligned MP4000/5000

[edwin3268]

You guys....geez. Be greatful that the design is NOT like the web assemblies for Panasonic DP-80xx or C-213's. At least you dont have the cheap little solenoid and actuator arm on the front side to deal with upon changing web and roller.

[Shadow1]

You guys....geez. Be greatful that the design is NOT like the web assemblies for Panasonic DP-80xx or C-213's. At least you dont have the cheap little solenoid and actuator arm on the front side to deal with upon changing web and roller.

Have you changed a web on one of these???

I don't work on Panasonic, but I can't imagine they are much worse.

I put the snakeskin oil roller in all my machines like df3036 posted back at the beginning of this thread - works great, takes 2 minutes to change

[Koosie]

I have removed the web unit from a machine and it worked great! I'm testing to see for any long term effects.

[Jomama46]

I have removed the web unit from a machine and it worked great! I'm testing to see for any long term effects.

You are running without the web?

[Koosie]

You are running without the web?

Yes, but they've only done about 20,000 without a problem. Will see if the hot roller does its life. I think the pressure roller cleaner on the pressure roller like in the prev. models is enough.

[Jomama46]

Interesting. Please keep us updated.

[E Winter]

Interesting. Please keep us updated.

+1

All I can say is that the fusing unit usually runs "2 + X" pm cycles (>320k). If I have to choose to keep the web installed OR need to rebuilt the fuser at every PM cycle, I'd prefer to keep the web.

[Shadow1]

Using the SnakeSkin roller gets me about the same results as with the web as far as life. The exception is the cleaning roller actually gets dirty again - with the web they were almost completely clean when the hot roller finally failed, without it they build up as bad as in the old series machines. Not a problem, though - just normal buildup.

I'd be interested to see how the life is running dry, too.

[Koosie]

I will post results asap.

[DH1980]

When will they replace the MP 4000?

[Shadow1]

Got an announcement yesterday - MP4001 Release Jan 15. No info on updated toner or same old crap.

[ucinn]

ldo50 and ld345's

what we have done to fix this problem with the toner/mag roller was to degrade the machine to a ld245. We swap out the toner motor and developer, use the b0799640 developer and flag the machine so when the customer orders toner, they get the ld245 toner. Quality problems gone.

[Shadow1]

That works great as long as you have enough control over supplies to make it happen - Us Ricoh Direct guys can't swing that.

[zyqwiz]

Got an announcement yesterday - MP4001 Release Jan 15. No info on updated toner or same old crap.

The new ones are the same as the CSP versions of the old ones!

[DH1980]

what we have done to fix this problem with the toner/mag roller was to degrade the machine to a ld245. We swap out the toner motor and developer, use the b0799640 developer and flag the machine so when the customer orders toner, they get the ld245 toner. Quality problems gone.

Do you do this to all MP 4000's. When setting up new machines you change the toner motor, are there any settings you change, does it last
160k? Any side effects?