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  • banginbishop
    grumpy old git

    500+ Posts
    • Oct 2007
    • 894

    #1

    1035,2045 PCU's





    Is there any right way of doing these crap units without pulling them out multiple times to stop them dirtying up. Oh and I vac out the old toner from the unit before putting it back in so its as clean as a whistle but I still get crap copies.

    I've just ordered a complete PCU unit as it wont stop marking the drum and the customers not happy as i fitted an overdue service kit and now there having to pay for a whole new drum unit...
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  • leo34staffs
    copierman

    Site Contributor
    500+ Posts
    • Aug 2007
    • 503

    #2
    Well you vac the drum out, but i would put a peice of paper between the dev unit and drum when dev initializing, also replace the foam seals regualrly on the dev unit and pcu area, also remember to use the spring at the back of 2045's that hold cleaning blade 2 in place, clean mag roller on dev replacements and run about 5 skyshots before doing the td setup (2801). One more thing is to bend the charge roller contacts slightly so that they put a bit more pressure onto the drum, hope this helps.
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    • cobiray
      Passing Duplication Xpert

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      • Mar 2008
      • 1199

      #3
      If you aren't doing so already, ditch the 2nd cleaning blade. And just to verify, you are vacuuming out the coil on the top (under the handle) as well as under the main blade.
      the savin2535 is displaying well bet the hiter lamp is not shining and the lamp had been tested o.k.please kindly help.
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      • Eric1968
        Service Manager

        1,000+ Posts
        • Jan 2009
        • 2458

        #4
        When I change, for example, the charge roller, I always replace the charge roller cleaner, and the cleaning blades as a set.

        Did you do the adjustments after drum / charge roller replacement?

        ID Sensor Adjustment (SP3-001-002)
        Process Control (SP2-805)
        Charge Roller Voltage Adjustment (SP2-001-001)

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        • nmfaxman
          Service Manager

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          1,000+ Posts
          • Feb 2008
          • 1702

          #5
          I started to regap the doctor blades on the DV units to .3mm a few months ago and my calls have dropped a lot as far as dirty copies and lines from charge roller.
          A couple of machines went PM to PM without a call after I did this.
          Its worth a try.
          Why do they call it common sense?

          If it were common, wouldn't everyone have it?

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          • iMind
            Vacuum Cleaning Expert

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            • Mar 2008
            • 1116

            #6
            Originally posted by cobiray
            If you aren't doing so already, ditch the 2nd cleaning blade. And just to verify, you are vacuuming out the coil on the top (under the handle) as well as under the main blade.
            iMind the vacuum cleaning expert
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            • banginbishop
              grumpy old git

              500+ Posts
              • Oct 2007
              • 894

              #7
              Right first up thanks for the replies on my thread



              M/c is set up per manual with id, td and charge roller etc.





              oh and i'm forever changing the seals as customers keep removing the pcu and ripping the dev and drum seals to remove jams
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              • E Winter

                #8
                strange - I almost never got these kind of troubles after refitting the PCU's

                During PM I change the Drum, Blade, Charge Roller and Cleaning Roller "as a set" and vac out just the PCU area I can reach without disassembling more parts of it. We're working with PM kits mostly.

                Ricoh does "officially" recommend not to use the 2nd blade for the A2045 and newer machines since a few month.

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                • Koosie
                  Trusted Tech

                  100+ Posts
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 121

                  #9
                  If I get dirty copies after drum replacement, I just make 10 to 20 copies and then they'll be clean.

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                  • Vulkor
                    Senior Tech

                    500+ Posts
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 942

                    #10
                    Not had a lot of problems with the Savin 2045/4035 models. But the 8035 have crap mag rollers.

                    How are you adjusting the gap on the doctor roller? never done it, don't now how.

                    "Ricoh does "officially" recommend not to use the 2nd blade for the A2045 and newer machines since a few month."

                    Seen this posted somewhere? I'd love to remove them cause they build up particulate.

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                    • E Winter

                      #11
                      Here it is (for the MP5000):

                      Technical Bulletin PAGE: 1/1
                      Model: Alex-C1 Date: 10-Nov-08 No.: RD009032
                      Subject: Vertical White Line(VWL)
                      Prepared by: K. Hamada
                      From: 2nd Tech Support Sec. Service Support Dept.
                      Classification:
                      Troubleshooting
                      Mechanical
                      Paper path
                      Part information
                      Electrical
                      Transmit/receive
                      Action required
                      Service manual revision
                      Retrofit information
                      Product Safety
                      Other ( )
                      Tier 2
                      SYMPTOM
                      Vertical white lines
                      CAUSE
                      Foreign material sometime gets stuck in between the OPC and 2nd cleaning blade, which scratches the surface of the OPC.
                      SOLUTION
                      Production line:
                      The 2nd cleaning blade was deleted from the PCU.
                      Machines in the field:
                      For both newly-installed machines and machines already in the field, remove the 2nd cleaning blade (P/N: AD041105) at the next PM visit for the 2nd cleaning blade.
                      Note: When the 2nd cleaning blade is removed, the following parts must also be removed.
                      - Snap Ring (P/N: G0652681)
                      - Bushing (P/N: 52031852)
                      - Spring (P/N: AA062258)
                      Couldn't found another tip like this for the A2045 series but I see no reason why we shouldn't handle it the same way with all "2nd blade" machines.

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                      • banginbishop
                        grumpy old git

                        500+ Posts
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 894

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Jan Sommer
                        strange - I almost never got these kind of troubles after refitting the PCU's
                        Jan is that an official invite to send you my nasty PCU's for you to rebuild - job done and sorted thanks Jan
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                        • E Winter

                          #13


                          You don't want to use these units AFTER shipping^^

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                          • unisys12
                            Trusted Tech

                            250+ Posts
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 490

                            #14
                            Also, if you have a MFP in the given family and it's just puking toner for no reason.... change the HVSP.... See what happens
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                            • SGT_Snacks-64
                              Trusted Tech

                              100+ Posts
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 157

                              #15
                              Nope.... can't ever say I've had this problem in the past. I usually fit the Drum, Cleaning Blade and Charge roller, vacing the innards and the cleaning brush roller. Remove the second cleaning blade.

                              I know when I was a complete n00b to all this I bent the Charge terminal on the PCU doing a change like this, causing black copies. But no problems with PCU replacement! Maybe I'm just lucky.

                              I actually don't mind the range (Well, apart from the c4.5 and Alex anyway!)
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