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  • aaahmmm
    Trusted Tech
    • Aug 2009
    • 103

    #1

    paper jam in aficio 1060

    Dear all
    I have a paper jam in aficio 1060 ,
    1- Paper jam in A
    just when using tray 2 and 3 no paper pass A (the paper completely pass the feed unit but jam in A ) I replace the feed unit and theVertical transport guide from another machine but the problem still appear
    2- Paper jam in B1
    when using tray 1 which only working I have jam in B1 every approximately 5-10 pages

    note : both problems In same machine
  • _Brent_
    Technician
    • Jul 2009
    • 39

    #2
    Check your paper tray size levers. Make sure the printer matches what the tray levers physical setting. Other than that, can you provide some paper jam codes ? It's difficult to track down a problem without jam codes.

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    • Shadow1
      Service Manager

      Site Contributor
      1,000+ Posts
      • Sep 2008
      • 1642

      #3
      I had something similar on an MP7000

      An address label was stuck to the mylar guide just before the aligning rollers. Intermittent, and different symptoms from different trays I guess because of how the paper bends as it comes out of the upper tray.
      73 DE W5SSJ

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      • Fearless V K
        Senior Tech

        500+ Posts
        • May 2007
        • 620

        #4
        Make sure you don't have developer contamination in your paper feed units.
        Don't take that toner with me!

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        • aabarnes1
          Senior Tech
          • Mar 2009
          • 620

          #5
          I agree, dev on your paper feed gears is most likely, however I've had the label stuck on the reg mylar too!
          Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change.

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          • Vulkor
            Senior Tech

            500+ Posts
            • Jun 2009
            • 946

            #6
            Yeah have had Labels on the Mylars as well. Luckily none of our Dv's ever leaked.

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            • aaahmmm
              Trusted Tech
              • Aug 2009
              • 103

              #7
              jam codes are 12 , 8
              i had dev leak problem but i fix it and clean the feed units , regestration unitunit

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              • TonerMunkeh
                Professional Moron

                2,500+ Posts
                • Apr 2008
                • 3865

                #8
                That sounds like the registration mylars to me. Whip the reg unit out and check the mylars for signs of wear, it'll be dead obvious.
                It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

                Hit it.

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                • tcs04
                  FORMER Techie

                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 1183

                  #9
                  Originally posted by aaahmmm
                  Dear all
                  I have a paper jam in aficio 1060 ,
                  1- Paper jam in A
                  just when using tray 2 and 3 no paper pass A (the paper completely pass the feed unit but jam in A ) I replace the feed unit and theVertical transport guide from another machine but the problem still appear
                  2- Paper jam in B1
                  when using tray 1 which only working I have jam in B1 every approximately 5-10 pages

                  note : both problems In same machine
                  There is no short cut to fix this problem!

                  Did you check the 1 way gear and motor on the vertical transport plate between feed stations 1 and 2? (comes out the same way as the feed stations)

                  This would cause jams from the lower trays if contaminated with dev.

                  If B1 jams you will have to remove the registration unit and change the 1 way bearings and 1 way lever. While it's out also change the vertical transport guides as previously suggested.

                  I assume you have changed the dev unit bushes? if not, you WILL see the same fault again very soon.

                  You will also probably need the 1 way gears at the end of the feed stations (order a complete set) and maybe the feed station motors if the dev leaked at the front of the machine (they can lock solid if dev gets onto the shaft).

                  I've done so many of these this year that I now fit an acetate sheet between the reg unit and feed stations to prevent any dev falling onto the gears.

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                  • ejfh1
                    Technician
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 16

                    #10
                    Acetate between reg and feed stations, brillient,where exactly do you put it?have had this problem on too many monday mornings not to give it a shot.

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                    • Shadow1
                      Service Manager

                      Site Contributor
                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 1642

                      #11
                      Ricoh would be wise to make that a Tech Bulletin - but they would also have been wise not to replace the clutches with 1 way bearings to begin with.(that was a few generations ago) For me they have a much higher fail rate, and nothing is safe after you dump developer on it.
                      73 DE W5SSJ

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                      • aaahmmm
                        Trusted Tech
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 103

                        #12
                        now i have the problem in the regestration rollers,some time the paper pass them and most times i had a jam with a sound (mmma)
                        i replace the regestration sensor but the jam still apearing

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                        • Shadow1
                          Service Manager

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                          • Sep 2008
                          • 1642

                          #13
                          The registration motors go bad every once in a while. They get weak and fail to start - just hum.
                          73 DE W5SSJ

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                          • Fearless V K
                            Senior Tech

                            500+ Posts
                            • May 2007
                            • 620

                            #14
                            Sounds like one way bearings and or bushnings are still contaminated with developer. If you did not completely disassemble, clean, and re-lube all of your feed stations and the registration section one way bearings, bushings, and roller shafts, all bets are off. I would go as far as replacing the gears with the bearings in them also. You may also have developer contamination in the motors too.

                            The mylars do wear in the feed sections, but the noise you hear is a telltale sign of contamination.
                            Don't take that toner with me!

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                            • Shadow1
                              Service Manager

                              Site Contributor
                              1,000+ Posts
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 1642

                              #15
                              I've seen 2 failure modes in the registration motor - both amount to the same thing.

                              If the motor gets contaminated with developer, the mag poles get "shorted out" with the magnetic particles. Or the perminate magnets just get weak (especially if it overheats) over time. The result is the same, without strong magnetic flux for the coils to "grab" the motor has no force. No matter what happened, the fix is the same - replace the motor.

                              Easiest way to test - Cheat the door switches and run the motor in output tests. Put your thumb on the jam knob for the aligning rollers. It should be difficult to stop - if it stops easily and hums it's dead.
                              73 DE W5SSJ

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