Ricoh 1232C bad quality prints

[Voltage]

Didnt these machine use fuser oil?Cant remember!If so it looks like there isnt much oil getting in to "the mix"!

If i interrupt the copy before fusing the marks are already on the unfused image.

[Scott_Lewis]

Take some of your own 80gm paper to test on the machine.

Is it possible there is too much transfer charge for the regular paper causing the toner to 'blast' or blow off of the paper?

[Voltage]

own paper is better but still not good enough for the client

[Koosie]

If its not fusing or transfer, I would make some single color copies to isolate the problem to a dev unit or the drum.

[Prodigal Son]

I don't BELIEVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!! This f***ing machine is killing me!! The damned thing has started to LEAK FUSER OIL AGAIN!!!

This time I am seriously placing two pounds of dynamite inside it, for real. I hate it. I hate this machine...........................

We've tried to fix it before but that obviously didn't do it. The oil container or the hose connection seems to leak oil on the side, so it feds up the sponge until it leaves large spots of oil on the paper.
My guess is the only thing that'll really fix it up good is replacing the fuser, or at least the fuser oil container... any thoughts..?

[Voltage]

dynamite sounds like a good plan

[Prodigal Son]

dynamite sounds like a good plan

Yeah, I know. Wonder how the insurance company would react if I called them and said 'hey, I blew this piece of crap up with a pound of dynamite, does the insurance cover that?'... lol the look on their faces would be priceless...

I got a couple of ideas from a friend, that I should replace the sponge, the sponge roller and another roller that I forgot the name of. I've ordered them, should get them in a couple of days.

[Shadow1]

We Feel Your Pain!!! Everyone here has been through it with one of these beasts. I posted a top 10 list of favorite ways to demolish one here somewhere a while back after a customer told me they wanted to push it off the top of the building, but were afraid it would be considered an insult to the sidewalk... Wait

Found it - top 5, and expanded to top 12 later in the thread: http://www.copytechnet.com/forums/ri...html#post59622

If anybody tries to do any of these, I have copyrighted the list and I will sue... unless you post video!!!

...and make sure your overflow oil return line isn't kinked or clogged.

[Lagonda]

Its going to get worse!

Sorry Daniel, buts thats not going to be the end of your problems.
The vapour from all that leaking oil is going to get into the paper feed and registration clutches and you are going to get jammimg problems big time!
The only cure is to replace the clutches.
Isn't it time you told the customer its beyond economical repair?

[Voltage]

Fixed my issue today. Finally. I took the transfer belt from and old PCU unit. It had a cleaning unit problem. So i took the cleaning unit from the new unit and put it on the old transfer belt. Put everything together and Bob's your auntie. The transfer belt part of the new pcu was buggered. Nice

[royd]

Stop wining about these lovely machines
maybe these machines are bad for high costs contracts

But did you ever think of small bussines like a gardener or mechanic,
who likes to make 20 or 40 color copies a day.
they can't affort high cost contracts and machines for about 10.000 euro's

these machines are very cheap to buy and remain (if you know what your talking about and not blindley replace everything) these cost about 1.000 euro's.

For example:
a konica c350 pcu costs about 400 euro's (and you need 4 of them every 60.000 copies)
Then the machines stops till you have replaced the pcu's

The pcu of the 1224 costs about 250 euro's and if treaded well it runs about 100.000 copies (much more if you aren't bitching about quality)

Not everyone likes a bill every 60.000 copies for about 1500 euro.

I agree with the poor quality but these color machines are the only affortable ones on the market (if you want to buy a cheap second hand)

if you can reccommend me a second hand machine for about 1000 euro that is better than this one and cheap to remain.... please do.
if not stop wining about quality and so.

[Si@danwood]

For example:
a konica c350 pcu costs about 400 euro's (and you need 4 of them every 60.000 copies)
Then the machines stops till you have replaced the pcu's

Not true.1stly the machine does not stop when asking for an I.U. if the settings are adjusted correctly.2nd I have heard of a set of I.U.s doing 500% of the expected life(thats 300,000 prints) as you say you can eek out the most from these machines with a bit of T.L.C. and patience.I have no doubt that customers like the cheap and nasty version but i think this thread is more about what a pain in the ass The Ricoh 1232 series are for the tech!!! Si

[zyqwiz]

Stop wining about these lovely machines
maybe these machines are bad for high costs contracts

Is it April fool's day again already?

They are bad for any type of contract. The parts go wrong no matter what the volume.

[Shadow1]

Stop wining about these lovely machines

What color is the sky on the planet where you live?

If their volume is low enough to successfully run one of these, they would probably be better off with a business class InkJet. Save yourself the headache.

[Jomama46]

What happens when the lens unit has to be replaced? Who pays for that?What happens when the cleaning drive assy has to be replaced? Who has to pay for that? Sure, everybody wants a bargain but generally the folks who buy these are the ones that can least afford to repair it and it will require some repair, more than many. And they will be the ones that complain the most. Good way to lose a customer.
Don't drink the kool-aid, these machines are crap. I wouldn't give you a dime for a bakers dozen.