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  • mrwho
    Major Asshole!

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    • Apr 2009
    • 4299
    #1

    Small Color Machine with bw/color control

    Hello there, guys.

    I'm in quite a squeeze right now. We have a customer with the following requirements:

    a) Small machine (desktop form factor)
    b) Cheap(ish)
    c) Network scan - email and folder
    d) User-based control for copies/prints
    e) BW/Color based permissions
    f) Machine usage by user (accounting)

    I can't find anywhere a Ricoh-machine that unites all of these requirements. The ideal machine would be the Aficio SP C232SF, but it only answers to requirements a, b and c (it only allows to block copies, scans and faxes - no mention to printing - and it gives no distinction between bw and color. Besides, it doesn't count copy/print usage).

    The alternative would be the MPC2050, but it's big and expensive for the customer's planned spending.

    So, am I wrong about the C232? Can it do what its needed, but I just don't know how? Or am I stuck without a valid proposal for this customer?
    ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
    Mascan42

    'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'
    Ibid

    I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!
    Tags: color, control, control panel, copyi, konicaminolta, stuck, user name, web image monitor, wrong
    • TonerMunkeh
      Professional Moron

      2,500+ Posts
      • Apr 2008
      • 3865
      #2
      I think the MPC2050 would be the best machine for the job. Failing that, if you're brave enough, there's always the MPC1500.
      It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

      Hit it.

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        • mrwho
          Major Asshole!

          Site Contributor
          2,500+ Posts
          • Apr 2009
          • 4299
          #3
          I assume that "brave enough" is because that machine is, basically, a geljet... right?
          ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
          Mascan42

          'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'
          Ibid

          I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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            • Vulkor
              Senior Tech

              500+ Posts
              • Jun 2009
              • 946
              #4
              Products / Aficio?MP C1500 | Ricoh Asia Pacific

              Yeah the is a Gel Sprinter. BIG POS.

              Don't think your customer is gonna get what they want. Comes a point when Cheap doesn't give ya much.

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                • mrwho
                  Major Asshole!

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                  • Apr 2009
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                  #5
                  Problem is the competition has a machine much like the one I'm talking about that apparently does what the customer wants.
                  ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
                  Mascan42

                  'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'
                  Ibid

                  I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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                    • Vulkor
                      Senior Tech

                      500+ Posts
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 946
                      #6
                      Looks like an HP almost. Yeah I can say Savin has never cared for the Small For Factor Market. I'm surprised the Savin 3515/816/917 machines work well.

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                        • mrwho
                          Major Asshole!

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                          • Apr 2009
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                          #7
                          I'm sorry if it looks that I'm beating on a dead horse, but is there any way the SP C232 can do any of the following?

                          d) User-based control for copies/prints
                          e) BW/Color based permissions
                          f) Machine usage by user (accounting)
                          ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
                          Mascan42

                          'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'
                          Ibid

                          I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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                            • Vulkor
                              Senior Tech

                              500+ Posts
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 946
                              #8
                              Snagged the Following Info from the OPERATIONS MANUAL for this machine from the Ricoh RFG Esource site.

                              Hope you have a login.

                              As for limited how many pages per user. I know Ricoh has a new app that does that. Seems its free. Not sure its compatible. Would think it would be since this machine does have an Actual WEB Image Monitor.

                              Ricoh new app = User Account Limit Application
                              Can be found on the TSCweb.net site under Solutions.



                              Restricting Machine Functions According to User
                              You can set the machine to require a user ID when someone tries to copy, send
                              faxes, or scan using the control panel.
                              To enable this setting, you must first configure the machine via Web Image Mon-
                              itor.
                              2
                              Enabling the User Restriction Settings
                              This section describes how to set the machine to permit only authorized users to
                              copy, send faxes, or scan using the control panel.
                              Using Web Image Monitor, select the function you want to restrict, and then reg-
                              ister the users who can use that function. For each user, you can specify which
                              functions are available upon authentication.
                              A maximum of 20 users can be registered.
                              A Start the Web browser, and access the machine by entering its IP address.
                              B Click [Restrict User Function].
                              C Under "Restrict User Settings", select [Enable] for the function you want to
                              restrict.
                              Select [Disable] for the functions you do not want to restrict.
                              D Enter the administrator password if required.
                              E Click [Submit].
                              The user restriction setting is enabled for the selected function. Proceed to the
                              following steps to register users.
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                              Restricting Machine Functions According to User
                              F Click [User Function List].
                              A list of currently registered user entries appears.
                              2
                              G Select a user entry, and then click [Edit].
                              H Type a unique user Name in [User]

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                                • Jomama46
                                  Field Supervisor

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                                  • Apr 2008
                                  • 2900
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by TonerMunkeh
                                  I think the MPC2050 would be the best machine for the job. Failing that, if you're brave enough, there's always the MPC1500.
                                  OUCH!
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                                  You never realize how cheap a professional is until after you let an amateur do it.
                                  A+; Network +; PDI+

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                                    • Shadow1
                                      Service Manager

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                                      • Sep 2008
                                      • 1642
                                      #10
                                      The GelSprinter does have its place... if you can find a garbage can big enough to fit one.

                                      Actually, I've never worked on one, but talking to the techs who have they're easy - anything goes wrong you replace the print engine. For $700+.

                                      They are supposed to be great for archival printing - if you use non-acid paper the archive length is > 100 years and doesn't fade.
                                      73 DE W5SSJ

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