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  • malthus
    Technician
    • Feb 2009
    • 29

    #1

    mpc 4500 df jams j053

    i am having problems diagnosing a jam fault on a ardf 3010 attatched to a mpc 4500 it constantly throws up j 053 jam codes ( seperator . off) .have replaced all pick up rollers + belts is it possible the exit sensor is on the way out
  • leo34staffs
    copierman

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    • Aug 2007
    • 503

    #2
    Does it jam on the last page? If so check the switch that hangs down to detect the presence of an original, they move out of postion slightly and catch the lower black plastic frame. (or warped top can cause this)

    I have also wound the spring one more time around the feed section ( the one that forces the pickup roller down on the page) this can help too!
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    • zed255
      How'd ya manage that?

      1,000+ Posts
      • Dec 2009
      • 1024

      #3
      Change the magnetic clutch driving the feed assembly. I've seen several on this feeder fail and cleaning it won't help, only replacing it seems to work.

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      • malthus
        Technician
        • Feb 2009
        • 29

        #4
        it jams on single page as well just stopping before the exit sensor

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        • Eric1968
          Service Manager

          1,000+ Posts
          • Jan 2009
          • 2458

          #5
          Had the same with an MPC3500. Switch off skew correction with SP6-020.

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          • Fearless V K
            Senior Tech

            500+ Posts
            • May 2007
            • 620

            #6
            Clean all optical sensors AND the aperatures opposite the sensors which can accumulate dirt or paper dust. Make sure you get the one that you have to remove the plate on the bottom left-hand side to get to.

            From Ricoh Global Knowledgebase...

            Jams occur in DF separation sensor
            [Cause]
            Lower guide plate of separation sensor area is dirty.
            [Action]
            Clean guide plate and sensor area
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            • spaceman99
              Senior Tech

              100+ Posts
              • Jul 2009
              • 174

              #7
              i am with Fearless V K on this one.
              SnS in rear bottom of df lid dirty.

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              • neergish
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                • Feb 2008
                • 177

                #8
                Another vote for the sensor. I always clean the registration sensor (17), the one behind the small metal plate and the exit sensor (15) each visit to these MC. To get to the exit sensor you need to remove the lower scanning exit guide (one screw) although it can be a little fiddly to get back in.
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                • malthus
                  Technician
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 29

                  #9
                  Originally posted by zed255
                  Change the magnetic clutch driving the feed assembly. I've seen several on this feeder fail and cleaning it won't help, only replacing it seems to work.

                  cant seem to find clutch your talking about can only see motors in parts manual

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                  • CableGuy
                    Impulse Drive Engineer

                    250+ Posts
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 417

                    #10
                    Originally posted by neergish
                    Another vote for the sensor. I always clean the registration sensor (17), the one behind the small metal plate and the exit sensor (15) each visit to these MC. To get to the exit sensor you need to remove the lower scanning exit guide (one screw) although it can be a little fiddly to get back in.
                    Sensor 15 everytime.... Whenever I have this problem it's usually sensor no.15 as per Neergish's sketch. But while you're at it clean them all. Doesn't take much dust to start a jamming fault....15 I say!!
                    Last edited by CableGuy; 03-03-2010, 05:35 PM. Reason: I can't spell....

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                    • mrwho
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                      • Apr 2009
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                      #11
                      Re: mpc 4500 df jams j053

                      Originally posted by Eric1968
                      Had the same with an MPC3500. Switch off skew correction with SP6-020.

                      Thanks for the tip. Solved mine turning off SP6132.
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                      • slimslob
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                        • May 2013
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                        #12
                        Re: mpc 4500 df jams j053

                        DJ 53 is a separation sensor lag, the sensor does not see the trail edge of the paper. That is sensor 3 on neergish's diagram. The black reference gets covered with dust, paper lint, or chads. I blow the dust out of sensor 3 and sensor 4 references everytime I am working on a machine. Sensor 17, which is theone fearless says to make sure you get, takes a little longer if you have to remove the plate that the reference is mounted.

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                        • Moza
                          Service Manager

                          100+ Posts
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 232

                          #13
                          Originally posted by slimslob:382046
                          DJ 53 is a separation sensor lag, the sensor does not see the trail edge of the paper. That is sensor 3 on neergish's diagram. The black reference gets covered with dust, paper lint, or chads. I blow the dust out of sensor 3 and sensor 4 references everytime I am working on a machine. Sensor 17, which is theone fearless says to make sure you get, takes a little longer if you have to remove the plate that the reference is mounted.
                          Im with you on this one had exactly the same problem which turned out to be missing black reference pad on the blue guide which is where this sensor looks for the trailing edge. I think it was replaced after being broken but came without the black pad !

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