B190 Savin 3224

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  • tjvincent
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    • Apr 2008
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    #1

    B190 Savin 3224

    Have a machine where one of the colors is dropping out or is very light , it can be Cyan, magenta or yellow , or maybe a couple at a time , I know the image is on the drum when it does it but it is not getting transfered for some reason , tried the board inside the belt unit no difference , sometimes it works fine black never has a problem , any ideas ? I am going back tomorrow with some of the other boards that are tied into transfer.
  • zed255
    How'd ya manage that?

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    • Dec 2009
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    #2
    I've seen the developer units not moving smoothly into and away from the OPC. Make sure the guides for the developers are clean and free of any crap. I've also seen clutches in those machines contaminated with silicone oil, usually on the paper feed side, but the dev clutches can go too.

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    • andym
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      • Oct 2008
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      #3
      Is it all the time or intermittent? How old is the developer? Have you tried running single colour copies from service mode? See if one of them shows up anything.

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      • tjvincent
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        #4
        It is intermittent , cant be developer or drum related the image is on the drum when it does it, does it in single color also.

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        • zed255
          How'd ya manage that?

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          #5
          Is the image making it into the ITB? There could be intermittent transfer from OPC to ITB. Are there any class C or D SC's being logged? Is it passing process control?

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          • tjvincent
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            #6
            On this machine the image doesn't get transferred to the belt , the paper goes between the belt and drum and the image gets transferred from the drum directly. Anyway I went there today and of course it wasnt doing it but I swapped the BCU board anyway and will see if problem pops up again.

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            • zed255
              How'd ya manage that?

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              #7
              Sorry my bad, I was just reading a thread on a different machine and jumped in with the wrong product in mind.

              I had one of these where the transfer unit position sensor was causing the unit to not reliably position itself, perhaps checking or changing that may help.

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              • Saviour
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                • Oct 2008
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                #8
                Correct if I'm wrong but is'nt this the same system as the AF1224 where the image from the drum is transfered to the transfer belt and then to the paper by means of the transfer roller fitted on the right hand side door. As afr as I know they even use the same Drum / TB unit hence it must use the same system of image transfer. I would look at the tansfer roller especially if it is mounted right and not havein that black mylar inbetween the contact and the roller end
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                • teebee1234
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                  • Jul 2008
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                  #9
                  It's a B190, I thing he meant to put 3228c.

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                  • tjvincent
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                    #10
                    It is a Savin 3224 which is the B190 also the same as a Savin 2820 and 3828 just different speeds , and the image gets transferred directly to the the paper from the drum it does not go to the transfer belt then the paper.

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                    • andym
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                      #11
                      ok I have summer 2009 manuals an they say Savin 3224C = B147. Besides the point a little. There is a copier to fix.

                      I think you are going in the right direction with transfer. If the image is indeed on the drum. Does the problem go away with process control? I'm thinking power distribution. Obviously I'm guessing a alittle without seeing the machine. If something is shorting and pulling down either drum charge or transfer charge.

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                      • tjvincent
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                        #12
                        I have replaced the BCU and it hasn't done it again in almost 3 weeks, thanks for the tips !

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