A3/DLT - double count ledger size

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  • Dexor
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    • Jan 2010
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    #1

    A3/DLT - double count ledger size

    I've seen at least a few machines where SP5104 does not exist. I attempt to make ledger size count double for every copy, or count single, depending on customer's needs.
    Manuals suggest change sp 5104 - but like I said, there is no 5104 in sp mode.
    HOW do I change enable/disable double count ledger size on Ricoh?
    Currently, 1060, 1075, 3245c - don't have 5104.
  • blackcat4866
    Master Of The Obvious

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    • Jul 2007
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    #2
    Dexor,
    5-104 is an SSP mode (Special Service Program) not an SP mode (Service Program). Set to "Yes" for double-count. One of our fine Ricoh specialists should be able to send you the appropriate information. Since this information should not be shared with endusers, private message is best. =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    • Eric1968
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      • Jan 2009
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      #3
      Press # when you select Copy SP. Then you enter Special SP.

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      • mrwho
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        #4
        Originally posted by blackcat4866
        Since this information should not be shared with endusers, private message is best.
        Originally posted by Eric1968
        Press # when you select Copy SP. Then you enter Special SP.
        ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
        Mascan42

        'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

        Ibid

        I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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        • Dexor
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          #5
          Originally posted by Eric1968
          Press # when you select Copy SP. Then you enter Special SP.
          thank you Eric,

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          • Eric1968
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            • Jan 2009
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            #6
            I did not tell the whole procedure to get into the service mode, so I think my answer is not that dumb as you suggested!

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            • mrwho
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              #7
              But an end-user who already knows how to enter SP mode (and I don't believe there are just a few of them) will say "ah-AH! So that's what I was missing!".
              ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
              Mascan42

              'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

              Ibid

              I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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              • KenB
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                • Dec 2007
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                #8
                Now you can see why there is an entire industry (Equitrac, Copitrak, etc...as well as manufacturers' products) for making products to control, monitor and restrict MFP functionality.
                “I think you should treat good friends like a fine wine. That’s why I keep mine locked up in the basement.” - Tim Hawkins

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                • Eric1968
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                  #9
                  [QUOTE=mrwho;182110]But an end-user who already knows how to enter SP mode (and I don't believe there are just a few of them) will say "ah-AH! So that's what I was missing!".[/QUOTE

                  An enduser who knows how to get into the SP-mode can already cause trouble. He doesn't need the SSP for that. I normally do not post any information that leads to entering the service mode, allthough I know that you can easily google that information.

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                  • mrwho
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Eric1968

                    An enduser who knows how to get into the SP-mode can already cause trouble. He doesn't need the SSP for that. I normally do not post any information that leads to entering the service mode, allthough I know that you can easily google that information.
                    I'm not worried about the users who blatantly cause trouble - they're the ones that, when their machines start spilling out developer through the fan openings, tell me "Well, I just fiddled with this here - I didn't cause that, did I?".

                    I'm more worried about the customers who have different prices for short and long paper on their contracts and, just before a major A3/DLT job, sneak into SSP and turn off double count temporarily.
                    ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
                    Mascan42

                    'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

                    Ibid

                    I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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                    • KenB
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by mrwho
                      I'm more worried about the customers who have different prices for short and long paper on their contracts and, just before a major A3/DLT job, sneak into SSP and turn off double count temporarily.
                      That can make a real difference in your service revenue if the customer in a print-for-pay who runs all color jobs.
                      “I think you should treat good friends like a fine wine. That’s why I keep mine locked up in the basement.” - Tim Hawkins

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                      • Ricohchet
                        Technician
                        • Aug 2014
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                        #12
                        Re: A3/DLT - double count ledger size

                        You can always check when the SP mode was last accessed and compare to service history, if the end user messes up he will have to pay

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