Drum Type 1515 (MP171SPF, MP201SPF, etc) dying early

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  • kingpd@businessprints.net
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    • Feb 2008
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    #16
    Re: Drum Type 1515 (MP171SPF, MP201SPF, etc) dying early

    So what ever happened? Was there a fix? Was it just a bad batch of PCU's? Are they made better now?

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    • mrwho
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      #17
      Re: Drum Type 1515 (MP171SPF, MP201SPF, etc) dying early

      Last week I got some unofficial info that this was all caused by one-year worth of bad PCUs (due to some dude sleeping on the assembly line and misplacing some mylar on the PCU). Apparently it took them one year to find this out, and since I can imagine how many PCUs can be manufactured during one entire year, I guess the problem isn't going away anytime soon...
      ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
      Mascan42

      'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

      Ibid

      I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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      • Llama God
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        #18
        Re: Drum Type 1515 (MP171SPF, MP201SPF, etc) dying early

        Originally posted by mrwho
        Last week I got some unofficial info that this was all caused by one-year worth of bad PCUs (due to some dude sleeping on the assembly line and misplacing some mylar on the PCU).
        He slept for a whole year? This man is my new hero, sorry Jomama!

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        • kingpd@businessprints.net
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          #19
          Re: Drum Type 1515 (MP171SPF, MP201SPF, etc) dying early

          I wonder if Ricoh will replace them for free if they fail to meet the 45k mark.

          Originally posted by mrwho
          Last week I got some unofficial info that this was all caused by one-year worth of bad PCUs (due to some dude sleeping on the assembly line and misplacing some mylar on the PCU). Apparently it took them one year to find this out, and since I can imagine how many PCUs can be manufactured during one entire year, I guess the problem isn't going away anytime soon...

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          • Gift
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            #20
            Re: Drum Type 1515 (MP171SPF, MP201SPF, etc) dying early

            Anyone else got this information? Would be nice to get in touch with the actual bulletin...

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            • Zeldaman
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              • Mar 2011
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              #21
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              • kyrenecopy
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                #22
                Re: Drum Type 1515 (MP171SPF, MP201SPF, etc) dying early

                Wish I could read German!
                Testing 1-2-3, testing, testing. Is this thing on?

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                • kingpd@businessprints.net
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                  #23
                  Re: Drum Type 1515 (MP171SPF, MP201SPF, etc) dying early

                  I think Germany should get into the copier business.

                  Might cost $50,000 for a 20ppm monochrome one but it would probably be one heavy tank copier and you'd only ever need to buy one once every 50 years.

                  God Bless German engineering.

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                  • Gift
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                    #24
                    Re: Drum Type 1515 (MP171SPF, MP201SPF, etc) dying early

                    thanks for this newsletter - google translation works good enough to get the point

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                    • kyrenecopy
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                      • Apr 2012
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                      #25
                      Re: Drum Type 1515 (MP171SPF, MP201SPF, etc) dying early

                      One other possibility is that the machines are not level front to back. Developer will migrate out of the unit into the gears and tear them up. Check the level of the machine.
                      Testing 1-2-3, testing, testing. Is this thing on?

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                      • Athlontini
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                        • Jun 2012
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                        #26
                        Re: Drum Type 1515 (MP171SPF, MP201SPF, etc) dying early

                        Does anybody ever take the trouble to attempt repairs on this type of PCU? Naturally the easiest response to an SC 500 is to just throw a new PCU in there, and my understanding is that they aren't meant to be serviceable.

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                        • mrwho
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                          #27
                          Re: Drum Type 1515 (MP171SPF, MP201SPF, etc) dying early

                          Originally posted by Athlontini
                          Does anybody ever take the trouble to attempt repairs on this type of PCU? Naturally the easiest response to an SC 500 is to just throw a new PCU in there, and my understanding is that they aren't meant to be serviceable.
                          I'm under the impression that a colleague of mine tried to repair a couple of them, but they didn't last long, so it's both easier and cheaper (less man-hours) to just throw a new PCU in there. Besides, if the PCU made less than 40k copies, you can try to use the Ricoh warranty to recover part of the cost of the new IU.
                          ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
                          Mascan42

                          'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

                          Ibid

                          I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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                          • kingpd@businessprints.net
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                            #28
                            Re: Drum Type 1515 (MP171SPF, MP201SPF, etc) dying early

                            Is Ricoh good at warranty replacement?

                            I've had difficulty with older stock on HP before.

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                            • Gift
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                              #29
                              Re: Drum Type 1515 (MP171SPF, MP201SPF, etc) dying early

                              If you buy directly from ricoh there should be no problem - if not they might refuse and forward you to the distrubutor you've bought your stuff.

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                              • zyqwiz
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                                #30
                                Re: Drum Type 1515 (MP171SPF, MP201SPF, etc) dying early

                                I don't know about other regions but Ricoh UK do no warranty for consumable parts.

                                There is no choice but to fit an entire unit as there is no parts breakdown for the PCU on this model

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