[Misc] Opinions on recycled machines - MPC 2500 in particular

[Samantha]

Hi guys -

I'm a repro person (sorry!!) and not sure I'm posting in the correct section.

I've just been recommended by Ricoh for the above machine (about 8 in total).

I'm just after an honest opinion - because of course Ricoh will not say anything bad about the machine, but I'm curious as to the quality of the recycled range because there is a bit price decrease on them.

And I've never used the above machine before so just hoping for some advice re performance. I don't want to get a load of them and find they're not up to scratch!

Thanks a lot!

[prntrfxr]

Re: Opinions on recycled machines - MPC 2500 in particular

We're probably going to need some more information. Like what you're going to print on them, average usage, etc...

[Samantha]

Re: Opinions on recycled machines - MPC 2500 in particular

ok - well nothing too fancy as they aren't for my use, just for other staff. So back to back, staples - probably about 15000 copies a month at an estimate. They won't have booklet makers, but will be networked for printer use. Also, they will have a fair bit of card going through the bypass.

More mono printing than colour I imagine initially, but depending on costs etc colour printing my increase drastically if we can get it cheap enough.

We currently use MP7000 and 7001 - these aren't being replaced but will run alongside and I'm hoping for a similar performance.

After calling the techs for the 4th time this week to my 2090 I'm wanting some machines which aren't as much hassle!

[Ollie1981]

Re: Opinions on recycled machines - MPC 2500 in particular

These machines were a good general use office colour machine first time round, not seen any come through yet recycled. The keyword is OFFICE colour, they can produce short runs of heavy coverage colour output but not for prolonged periods. (in other words they aren't a PRODUCTION colour machine)

They are a 25ppm machine, so will have a throughput slightly better than a third of the MP7000 and 7001, volume wise an MP7000 and/or 7001 and a 2090 are designed to handle a LOT more volume than an MP2500. But if this is for general staff use it should be ok.

It's horses for courses, they are good little boxes in the right environment. If they are run over volume they will require very regular maintenance but 15,000 per month should be fine as longs as that's not 100% heavy coverage colour, also there's a lot of plastic parts on the RHS door that are easily damaged by heavy handed slamming of the door.

[ptrflrs]

Re: Opinions on recycled machines - MPC 2500 in particular

overall a good solid performer but definitely not for a print shop. weak spots are the usual: fusing units, toner pumps, adf clutches and normal wear and tear pm parts. i have several with over 1 million clicks and cq is still impressive for the age of the machine

[Samantha]

Re: Opinions on recycled machines - MPC 2500 in particular

Ok thanks everyone -sorry - what does cq mean?


What about the MPC 4500? That is what I've been recommended as a replacement for a 3235c - but we are wanting a big upgrade on that rather than a replacement machine as it gets a lot of use for colour - rarely used for black and white, but does about 4,000 a month colour (this is going to drastically increase with a new machine though due to prices etc we can do a lot more in colour and will be wanting a booklet maker on this machine.

Still not sure about all of this, with the 2500 only being 25 copies a minute I wonder if people will favour the 7000s and use them instead, which defeats the object.

[jonezy999]

Re: Opinions on recycled machines - MPC 2500 in particular

Ok thanks everyone -sorry - what does cq mean?


What about the MPC 4500? That is what I've been recommended as a replacement for a 3235c - but we are wanting a big upgrade on that rather than a replacement machine as it gets a lot of use for colour - rarely used for black and white, but does about 4,000 a month colour (this is going to drastically increase with a new machine though due to prices etc we can do a lot more in colour and will be wanting a booklet maker on this machine.

Still not sure about all of this, with the 2500 only being 25 copies a minute I wonder if people will favour the 7000s and use them instead, which defeats the object.

You mentioned running a lot of card through the machine, which, I believe neither the MPC2500 or 4500 is reliable in doing. Also I don't think its possible to use the booklet maker on these models while running anything over standard paper stock, like 80gsm.

[Samantha]

Re: Opinions on recycled machines - MPC 2500 in particular

[QUOTE=jonezy999;244554]You mentioned running a lot of card through the machine, which, I believe neither the MPC2500 or 4500 is reliable in doing. Also I don't think its possible to use the booklet maker on these models while running anything over standard paper stock, like 80gsm.[/QUOTE]

That's very useful to know. Because I will need to put card through the booklet maker on the 4500 so will need to look into a different machine.

Do the 2500 have a bypass? Can it cope with card going through there if set up correctly?

Does anyone have a recommendation of a colour capaable machine with booklet maker option which will cope with card on the booklet maker? (Just for a front cover, not a whole booklet)

[ptrflrs]

Re: Opinions on recycled machines - MPC 2500 in particular

Ok thanks everyone -sorry - what does cq mean?


What about the MPC 4500? That is what I've been recommended as a replacement for a 3235c - but we are wanting a big upgrade on that rather than a replacement machine as it gets a lot of use for colour - rarely used for black and white, but does about 4,000 a month colour (this is going to drastically increase with a new machine though due to prices etc we can do a lot more in colour and will be wanting a booklet maker on this machine.

Still not sure about all of this, with the 2500 only being 25 copies a minute I wonder if people will favour the 7000s and use them instead, which defeats the object.

cq = copy quality, also mpc2500 not a very great box for heavy cardstock paper, u must run it as thick 3 from the bypass but it will slow down drastically to ensure the toner fuses properly to the thicker paper. like someone mentioned earlier its not a production machine just business color -not meant to run cardstock all day every day. mpc4500 is very similar to mpc2500 but a bit more robust but again not a production machine. mpc 4500 should be able to handle 4k color clicks/month and is a good upgrade from a 3235c.