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  • acsolutions
    Senior Tech

    500+ Posts
    • Jun 2010
    • 519

    [CQ] mp9001 backgrounding

    Hello,
    my mp9001 backgrounds badly print and copy, even in the void areas. there is also ghosting, checked the cleaning section ok. any suggestions. Thanks
  • rsyarcia
    Hair Straightener Tech

    500+ Posts
    • Feb 2008
    • 711

    #2
    Re: mp9001 backgrounding

    you should consider checking the drum life. how many copies made?
    Nobody is perfect..

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    • teebee1234
      Service Manager

      Site Contributor
      1,000+ Posts
      • Jul 2008
      • 1670

      #3
      Re: mp9001 backgrounding

      Originally posted by rsyarcia
      you should consider checking the drum life. how many copies made?
      Yes, we need more particulars. Is it OEM toner? Could also be a bias short, erase lamps not functioning or a number of other things.

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      • acsolutions
        Senior Tech

        500+ Posts
        • Jun 2010
        • 519

        #4
        Re: mp9001 backgrounding

        Sorry, the machine has 170,000 on machine, customer just added new toner when the problem occurred. Did a developer change, no change. Check the machines red erase led's ok, checked while machine was running. that was pretty much all I have done. there is no errors, I did not have a chance to pull the cleaning area apart because of the time, did not start the call till 4:30 and got out of their at 5:15. Thanks

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        • Tonerbomb
          AutoMajical Resolutionist

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          • Feb 2005
          • 2589

          #5
          Re: mp9001 backgrounding

          Is it OEM toner and developer??? What is Vref, Vt, and Vcont ?? HWat is the bias voltage set to ?
          Mystic Crystal Revelations

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          • acsolutions
            Senior Tech

            500+ Posts
            • Jun 2010
            • 519

            #6
            Re: mp9001 backgrounding

            Originally posted by Tonerbomb
            Is it OEM toner and developer??? What is Vref, Vt, and Vcont ?? HWat is the bias voltage set to ?
            what are the ref. numbers usually at and if there off what should I be looking at? The toner and developer is OEM. Thanks

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            • Shadow1
              Service Manager

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              • Sep 2008
              • 1642

              #7
              Re: mp9001 backgrounding

              That sounds suspiciously like a bad drum ground.
              73 DE W5SSJ

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              • acsolutions
                Senior Tech

                500+ Posts
                • Jun 2010
                • 519

                #8
                Re: mp9001 backgrounding

                Originally posted by Shadow1
                That sounds suspiciously like a bad drum ground.
                Where exactly is the drum grounded? I also noticed that the transfer belt had a film of toner. thanks for the reply

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                • fbkhan3
                  Trusted Tech

                  250+ Posts
                  • May 2012
                  • 421

                  #9
                  Re: mp9001 backgrounding

                  Charge,bias or ground, even a moist Toner could be the cause.if you could attach the specimen it would make it allot easier.

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                  • Shadow1
                    Service Manager

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                    • Sep 2008
                    • 1642

                    #10
                    Re: mp9001 backgrounding

                    Originally posted by acsolutions
                    Where exactly is the drum grounded? I also noticed that the transfer belt had a film of toner. thanks for the reply
                    Unless they've seriously changed something from the MP6000 and company the drum ground connects to the developer bias board. At some point during process control they switch developer bias into the drum to calibrate the Drum Potential Sensor. IIRC because of that you can't just test from the drum shell to a ground point. You have to test from the drum shell to the ground lead on the HV Power supply. If the drum ground is bad the drum shaft assembly has to be replaced. You can also have a bad ground relay on the HV board.

                    Characteristic of a bad drum ground on Ricoh machines is background over everything, very weak solids, and halos around whatever is printed on the sheet. The effect may fade in and out as the drum rotates and grounding through the drum bearings gets better and worse.
                    73 DE W5SSJ

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                    • acsolutions
                      Senior Tech

                      500+ Posts
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 519

                      #11
                      Re: mp9001 backgrounding

                      Originally posted by Shadow1
                      Unless they've seriously changed something from the MP6000 and company the drum ground connects to the developer bias board. At some point during process control they switch developer bias into the drum to calibrate the Drum Potential Sensor. IIRC because of that you can't just test from the drum shell to a ground point. You have to test from the drum shell to the ground lead on the HV Power supply. If the drum ground is bad the drum shaft assembly has to be replaced. You can also have a bad ground relay on the HV board.

                      Characteristic of a bad drum ground on Ricoh machines is background over everything, very weak solids, and halos around whatever is printed on the sheet. The effect may fade in and out as the drum rotates and grounding through the drum bearings gets better and worse.
                      the copy quality looks great except for the background. But I am also getting some ghost imaging.

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                      • Zeldaman
                        Senior Tech

                        500+ Posts
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 946

                        #12
                        Re: mp9001 backgrounding

                        Hi there!
                        Take a look at the RICOH-support-page, there is a new engine-firmware espacily for this problem!
                        Greetings...

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                        • fbkhan3
                          Trusted Tech

                          250+ Posts
                          • May 2012
                          • 421

                          #13
                          Re: mp9001 backgrounding

                          Originally posted by acsolutions
                          Sorry, the machine has 170,000 on machine, customer just added new toner when the problem occurred. Did a developer change, no change. Check the machines red erase led's ok, checked while machine was running. that was pretty much all I have done. there is no errors, I did not have a chance to pull the cleaning area apart because of the time, did not start the call till 4:30 and got out of their at 5:15. Thanks


                          As you mentioned customer just added new toner when the problem occurred.
                          So why don't you take out the toner,make few sky shots until toner indication is there and just add new toner to see if it help's.

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                          • acsolutions
                            Senior Tech

                            500+ Posts
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 519

                            #14
                            Re: mp9001 backgrounding

                            Originally posted by fbkhan3
                            As you mentioned customer just added new toner when the problem occurred.
                            So why don't you take out the toner,make few sky shots until toner indication is there and just add new toner to see if it help's.
                            I had some developer with me at the time so I changed it, there was no change.

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                            • fbkhan3
                              Trusted Tech

                              250+ Posts
                              • May 2012
                              • 421

                              #15
                              Re: mp9001 backgrounding

                              Originally posted by acsolutions
                              I had some developer with me at the time so I changed it, there was no change.
                              I was asking about replacing toner M8,Not developer,yes you changed the developer but there is still that old toner in toner hopper,moist toner sticks to mag shaft and disturbs the development bias.I had the same background problem with 6001,i just replaced the toner at first shot and that was it,

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