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  • T911
    Senior Tech

    500+ Posts
    • Jun 2007
    • 627

    MPC-7500

    This one has me for a loop. I can't watch and see what is going on. I looked into the pc units and transfer area to see visually if anything is out of wack but all looks good. Machine has 270k bw and 154k color on it. i don't see a staull and don't here any noises for brocken gears. image as you can see is there but just blurred. view attached file. thanks
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  • Bantams
    Senior Tech

    500+ Posts
    • Jun 2012
    • 603

    #2
    Re: MPC-7500

    Funny enough I had this same issue 2 days ago after the Customer had left the front door open and Light had got onto the Black Drum.

    After doing a few Hundred Copies it went back to Normal Try Individual Col copies ie do a copy in cyan yellow and Magenta and then do one on black only and i bet the single col copies are not blurred and the Blk one is.

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    • tjvincent
      Trusted Tech

      250+ Posts
      • Apr 2008
      • 280

      #3
      Re: MPC-7500

      That looks like humidity, did you run a bunch of copies ? Try single color cyan, mag, yellow. I have seen that in small offices after a weekend, it goes away after it is run a bit.

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      • Llama God
        Service Manager

        1,000+ Posts
        • Mar 2009
        • 1353

        #4
        Re: MPC-7500

        Are the PMs all up-to-date?

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        • BLADE
          former propeller tester

          250+ Posts
          • Dec 2009
          • 478

          #5
          Re: MPC-7500

          looks normal to me

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          • fbkhan3
            Trusted Tech

            250+ Posts
            • May 2012
            • 421

            #6
            Re: MPC-7500

            Looks like, Time to rebuild the black PCU!lubricant bars,Springs,
            (MPC 7500)these beasts are known for CQ issues,PM Unit's always way less then 450K,

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            • turbojetboy
              Trusted Tech

              250+ Posts
              • Aug 2009
              • 279

              #7
              Re: MPC-7500

              Originally posted by fbkhan3
              Looks like, Time to rebuild the black PCU!lubricant bars,Springs,
              (MPC 7500)these beasts are known for CQ issues,PM Unit's always way less then 450K,
              Thats the answer, and you should replace the black coro unit - as it is my experience that changing this along with cleaning or replacing all the air filters will go a long way towards stopping the exact problem of blurring your sample shows.

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              • Masterchief
                Trusted Tech

                250+ Posts
                • Apr 2011
                • 281

                #8
                Re: MPC-7500

                Originally posted by Bantams
                Funny enough I had this same issue 2 days ago after the Customer had left the front door open and Light had got onto the Black Drum.

                After doing a few Hundred Copies it went back to Normal Try Individual Col copies ie do a copy in cyan yellow and Magenta and then do one on black only and i bet the single col copies are not blurred and the Blk one is.
                I agree with this post, i also had this problem solved by doing this procedure

                Masterchief
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                • BLADE
                  former propeller tester

                  250+ Posts
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 478

                  #9
                  Re: MPC-7500

                  This thread is quite remarkable and unlocks some of the issues with this model. I,ve seen the condition on the sample also after having the pcu out for a few minutes during a call. Wasnt sure what was going on but the copies came good after about 200 copies.

                  I think that indicates the drums are over sensitive to light.

                  Are there any old Canon techs here from the NP4835 analog series? Those machines were released with a drum that 'went off' when exposed to outside light (faded patches). But more importantly they suffered 'light fatigue' during normal use from the exposure lamp and that model had a new invention which was a laser to do the lead edge blanking. The drums fell way short of their target. A few months later new drums were issued and the machines ran good.

                  I reckon the same thing is happenning with this model. The process control aint happy and amps everything up trying to get solids up, so you end up with overtoning, all because of a weak drum. 2 cents worth.
                  Last edited by BLADE; 09-12-2012, 12:11 PM.

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                  • Llama God
                    Service Manager

                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 1353

                    #10
                    Re: MPC-7500

                    So, are the PMs up-to-date?

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                    • TonerMunkeh
                      Professional Moron

                      2,500+ Posts
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 3868

                      #11
                      Re: MPC-7500

                      Just to throw another possible cause into the mix.... Strip the transfer unit out and look at the bushings that sit either side of the bias roller for black. You might find the front one has worn on it's inner surface causing the bias roller to stall. I've had that cause this issue before and that image defect does look rotational.
                      It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

                      Hit it.

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                      • BLADE
                        former propeller tester

                        250+ Posts
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 478

                        #12
                        Re: MPC-7500

                        Originally posted by TonerMunkeh
                        Just to throw another possible cause into the mix.... Strip the transfer unit out and look at the bushings that sit either side of the bias roller for black. You might find the front one has worn on it's inner surface causing the bias roller to stall. I've had that cause this issue before and that image defect does look rotational.
                        what was the meter count for this fault, the posters m/c is fairly low miles - cheers

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                        • TonerMunkeh
                          Professional Moron

                          2,500+ Posts
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 3868

                          #13
                          Re: MPC-7500

                          300k black, 1.91 million colour. Guess what sort of environment this piece of shit got sold into!
                          It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

                          Hit it.

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                          • Horologydoc
                            Technician

                            Site Contributor
                            50+ Posts
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 61

                            #14
                            Re: MPC-7500

                            I've had dirty MUSIC sensors cause a similar effect to this in the past.

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                            • BLADE
                              former propeller tester

                              250+ Posts
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 478

                              #15
                              Re: MPC-7500

                              Originally posted by TonerMunkeh
                              300k black, 1.91 million colour. Guess what sort of environment this piece of shit got sold into!
                              it will either be a print business or a rundown church

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