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  • Old Crow
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    #1

    Bypass copying on MP6500

    Anyone know if there is a setting to have paper invert, as it does from the drawers, when copying from the bypass? Thanks.
  • TonerMunkeh
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    #2
    Re: Bypass copying on MP6500

    No Ricoh kit copies duplex from the bypass as far as I know.
    It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

    Hit it.

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    • Old Crow
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      Re: Bypass copying on MP6500

      Thanks for the reply TonerMunkeh. The customer is not trying to duplex but are putting a stack of originals in adf, say 1-5. Instead of coming out 1-5 they come out 5-1 because they are not inverted before exiting as I believe they are when copying from the drawers. I told them that the bypass is used primarliy for thick paper, labels etc. but of course they don't want to hear that. So thought I would see if anyone knows of a setting change for this. As far as I can tell there is not.

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      • femaster
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        Re: Bypass copying on MP6500

        What's not being inverted, the originals, or the copies? If copies, have they tried selecting the "sort" feature on the copy screen?

        This sounds like odd behavior to me. Not sure why they would be output in reverse order. I've never really paid attention, but I would expect even the by-pass tray to follow the rule of FIFO... (First In, First Out)
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        • teebee1234
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          #5
          Re: Bypass copying on MP6500

          If the bypass is set to thick mode, it will not invert. It should if it's set to plain.

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          • femaster
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            Re: Bypass copying on MP6500

            Originally posted by teebee1234
            If the bypass is set to thick mode, it will not invert. It should if it's set to plain.
            Interesting. I've never really paid attention to it before, but is there a reason why it would be programmed to do that? Just doesn't make sense to me. Very counter intuitive...
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            • teebee1234
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              Re: Bypass copying on MP6500

              Originally posted by femaster
              Interesting. I've never really paid attention to it before, but is there a reason why it would be programmed to do that? Just doesn't make sense to me. Very counter intuitive...
              Thick can't make the bend into the inverter, if you change the paper thickness for the trays to thick you will find the duplex option for that tray gray out (though I think middle thick is ok).

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              • femaster
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                Re: Bypass copying on MP6500

                Originally posted by teebee1234
                Thick can't make the bend into the inverter, if you change the paper thickness for the trays to thick you will find the duplex option for that tray gray out (though I think middle thick is ok).
                OK, I know what you are saying, but what I was referring to was just plain paper, which I believe is what the OP had said they were using in the by-pass. Why would plain paper come out in a different order, if fed through the by-pass, than it would from a normal paper tray? Unless you are indicating that the reason the OP is having that problem is because they are feeding plain paper through the by-pass using the setting of thick?
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                • teebee1234
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                  Originally posted by femaster
                  OK, I know what you are saying, but what I was referring to was just plain paper, which I believe is what the OP had said they were using in the by-pass. Why would plain paper come out in a different order, if fed through the by-pass, than it would from a normal paper tray? Unless you are indicating that the reason the OP is having that problem is because they are feeding plain paper through the by-pass using the setting of thick?
                  That's what I was assuming but if its not set for thick then I would have to take back my answer.

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                  • Old Crow
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                    Re: Bypass copying on MP6500

                    thanks for the responses. yes, it's the copies that are not being inverted through the bypass(not the originals), and they are using 20 lb. paper. that makes sense about the "thick paper" setting. i didn't know about that. i will be seeing the copier some time this week and check that. will follow up and let you know what happens. thanks again!

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                    • teebee1234
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                      Re: Bypass copying on MP6500

                      Maybe this is the answer (from the Knowledge Base).....
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                      Page order reversed when using bypass tray


                      Published 04/16/2010 03:59 AM | Updated 04/16/2010 03:59 AM
                      Answer ID 118231 | FAQ ID 117838 | Rank A0
                      When specifying copying from the ADF to the bypass, the page order is reversed. How can I fix this?



                      The problem occurs due [Face Up] output being set by default for the bypass tray.
                      As the bypass tray is commonly used as an application paper tray for printing on thick paper, etc., the paper transport route is set to the simpler [Face Up] setting by default during device configuration. To change this setting from [Face Up] to [Face Down], follow these steps:
                      1. Press the [User Tools/Counter] key.


                      1. Press [Copier/Document Server Features].

                      1. Press [Input/Output].

                      1. Press [Copy Eject Face Method in Bypass Mode].

                      1. Press [Face Down].

                      1. Press [OK].

                      Confirm that [Face Down] is displayed, and then press [Exit] twice.

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                      • Old Crow
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                        #12
                        Re: Bypass copying on MP6500

                        TeeBee, thanks for that information. That did the trick. Thanks again to all for the responses! Old Crow

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