MPC25500 -MPC2800-- what to expect?

[fshead]

Looking at picking up some low count lease returns color units"40k to 80k" and
need advice on these units..
are they reliable? are the drum units interchangeable? rebuild-able?
what should i expect?
these are going in low usage accounts 60kto100k b/w/yr and 30k color/year..
thanks inadvance

[rsyarcia]

Re: MPC25500 -MPC2800-- what to expect?

for our experience, these machines are reliable.Black and coloured drums are interchangeable.

[fshead]

Re: MPC25500 -MPC2800-- what to expect?

for our experience, these machines are reliable.Black and coloured drums are interchangeable.

IS one model much better than the other?
did they improve the design of the transfr belt?
thnx

[Eric1968]

Re: MPC25500 -MPC2800-- what to expect?

Perfect machine! Almost no problems.

The K and CMY drums are interchangable, but you need to modify the K-drum to use it as a CMY-drum.

[Smee]

Re: MPC25500 -MPC2800-- what to expect?

Hang on dude - theres a spelling error there. Do you mean MPC2500 or MPC2550?

MPC2500 and 2800 are awesome machines. As posted above drums are interchangeable but with a small mod and the fusers are simple to work on and very similar.

MPC2550's however are notorious for weird paper jams, plastic clutches and are completely different from the 2800 - no interchangable parts. Oh yeah...and an annoying squeek from the PCU's that drive people nuts and the only way to fix it for certain is to change the PCU despite mods and bulletins being issued.

IMO.

[Klydon]

Re: MPC25500 -MPC2800-- what to expect?

The MPC 2800 machines are good machines that will easily handle the volume ranges you have listed.

The MPC 2550 is a very light duty/low volume machine that would probably be stretched for the mid to upper volume range you have listed. We usually like to keep them at no more than 4k a month or so total and they will struggle to do a large run of full color pages (cleaning will struggle to keep up and will have to be replaced often). Also, if they have the internal finisher and the customer plans on doing a lot of staple sets, be prepared for issues of the sets not being fully stapled as that finisher is meant for light stapling work and it has issues trying to square up the stack for stapling. The MPC 2550 is a good machine for what it is, but too many people try to do medium and heavy work loads on it that wind up with less than desirable results.

[fshead]

Re: MPC25500 -MPC2800-- what to expect?

Hang on dude - theres a spelling error there. Do you mean MPC2500 or MPC2550?

MPC2500 and 2800 are awesome machines. As posted above drums are interchangeable but with a small mod and the fusers are simple to work on and very similar.

MPC2550's however are notorious for weird paper jams, plastic clutches and are completely different from the 2800 - no interchangable parts. Oh yeah...and an annoying squeek from the PCU's that drive people nuts and the only way to fix it for certain is to change the PCU despite mods and bulletins being issued.

IMO.

thanks...........
that is what i want to know...
between ricoh,savin,lanier,gestetner i need an accnt to keep track of it all..
will look for some 2500 and 2800 units..
at what meter would you worry about or what life cycle?..

[kozanecki]

Re: MPC25500 -MPC2800-- what to expect?

Looking at picking up some low count lease returns color units"40k to 80k" and
need advice on these units..
are they reliable? are the drum units interchangeable? rebuild-able?
what should i expect?
these are going in low usage accounts 60kto100k b/w/yr and 30k color/year..
thanks inadvance

price says everything , check the vertical transport check the price of imaging units
can you rebuild them ? maybe
in my opinion the old version mpc 2500 is much better choice
or mpc 3000
good units mpc 5000 mpc 4000

[kozanecki]

Re: MPC25500 -MPC2800-- what to expect?

Looking at picking up some low count lease returns color units"40k to 80k" and
need advice on these units..
are they reliable? are the drum units interchangeable? rebuild-able?
what should i expect?
these are going in low usage accounts 60kto100k b/w/yr and 30k color/year..
thanks inadvance

mpc 2800 is ok acording to some of my friends techs

[fshead]

Re: MPC25500 -MPC2800-- what to expect?

mpc 2800 is ok acording to some of my friends techs

After some looking around it appears the mpc 3300 is the same but a little faster..
toner reminds me of the old 4106 type k toner which i think i still have laying around...
thnx

[intracopy2]

Re: MPC25500 -MPC2800-- what to expect?

good evening!
The toner mpc 2800 k and mpc 3300 is common!

[kozanecki]

Re: MPC25500 -MPC2800-- what to expect?

thanks...........
that is what i want to know...
between ricoh,savin,lanier,gestetner i need an accnt to keep track of it all..
will look for some 2500 and 2800 units..
at what meter would you worry about or what life cycle?..

the lower the better when i buy used copier for resale i check pm count and then remove imaging units
and check them visually take it apart vacuum it clean blades brushes inspect development units
transfer belt cleaning unit fusing unit thermofuses thermistors etc
then feed sections feed rollers vertical transport
ADF unit feed sections transport inverter and then make a decision
These imaging units fuser are very expensive
Simplicity in design look for that Ricoh are good from connectivity side but mechanics not the best
in monochrome copiers Kyocera is the best on the market old units 3035 to newer 4050
Task Alfa 420 I for example is mixed canon ADF charge unit rest engine kyocera
why simple ? mono component units that do not use developer and toner(Kyocera, Canon) are having less problems
almost all Ricoh has dual component(developer and toner) toner ratio control and toner delivery

[mazzi]

Re: MPC25500 -MPC2800-- what to expect?

MP C2800/3300 are similar to MP C2500/3000, only printer is so much faster, When i tested this machine a year ago, i could not believe that printer is sooo fast. And i think colours are better to !

[fshead]

Re: MPC25500 -MPC2800-- what to expect?

the lower the better when i buy used copier for resale i check pm count and then remove imaging units
and check them visually take it apart vacuum it clean blades brushes inspect development units
transfer belt cleaning unit fusing unit thermofuses thermistors etc
then feed sections feed rollers vertical transport
ADF unit feed sections transport inverter and then make a decision
These imaging units fuser are very expensive
Simplicity in design look for that Ricoh are good from connectivity side but mechanics not the best
in monochrome copiers Kyocera is the best on the market old units 3035 to newer 4050
Task Alfa 420 I for example is mixed canon ADF charge unit rest engine kyocera
why simple ? mono component units that do not use developer and toner(Kyocera, Canon) are having less problems
almost all Ricoh has dual component(developer and toner) toner ratio control and toner delivery

i too hate the b/w drum n dev combined design in the 20 to 30cpm b/w..
i think if they had done it like the old 450 b/w,it would have been a better run..
there is just no room in those units for any error or excess...i have dabbled wth some kyoceras,even worked on a few oldies before they
were digital,smart design,but hear software has issues...
the counts im chasing are less than 80k so i think barring a bad trucker or butcher tech i should be safe...
thnx
as for the color

[andy227]

Re: MPC25500 -MPC2800-- what to expect?

Good machine in general. I looked after five of these. The fuser cleaning roller tends to foul up and needs cleaning regularly as it offsets steaks back onto the copy, the drum units tend not to go the full milage when doing full coverage copies, and I've had to change the touch panel screen on all of them at some stage.