Reseting Page counter - Ricoh

[kelisa]

Re: Reseting Page counter - Ricoh

No, it's fraud and dishonest, and that's not what this forum is about.... being dishonest. It is a forum for people of the same interest, i.e. helping each other give our customers the best possible service. Now go and bang your head on the ground until you are forgiven....

Keep your anger to yourself.

You dont have to voice it here. I only ask if its possible to reset. If most people dont reset their machines, so be it. I am fine with machine without resetting them.

DOnt worry, I wont comment on you at all.

[kelisa]

Re: Reseting Page counter - Ricoh

We always put new counters on Refurbs due to it makes it easier for meter charge contracts. 1st of all you need to download the nvram data to a Sd card using sp5-824-001 then you need to replace the NVRAM b230 9590 then when the new nvram is in place reinstall on the new Nvram the data on the sd card using SP5-825-001. The Part Number for the NVRAM that is situated on the Controller Differs from machine models the one you need is the B230 9590 that's the same one on the MPC2000, 2500 and 3000 the MPC2800,3300,4000 and 5000 use D023-9590.... Don't forget to give me Rep points this message will self destruct when a mod feels the need to delete it :P

Thanks bantams, but I think better to destruct this message asap. It might be too sensitive.

[kelisa]

Re: Reseting Page counter - Ricoh

Dude, we sell them fully recond also - and ALWAYS with the original low meter counts. We only refurb low vol machines. Quite frankly I think your prospective customers would be fine with that - ours are. 0 meter just looks wrong.

So just save yourself an enormous amount of stuffing around and keep the meters real. It's no big trade secret -it's simple a bloody nightmare - ESPECIALLY on a colour machine as you describe. But yes any old IC will do.

Thanks for advice. Yes, my clients are fine with meter readings in it, they understand its refurbished machine. In fact, most of my machines have running counters never reset. Cheers dude.

[CableGuy]

Re: Reseting Page counter - Ricoh

Keep your anger to yourself.

You dont have to voice it here. I only ask if its possible to reset. If most people dont reset their machines, so be it. I am fine with machine without resetting them.

DOnt worry, I wont comment on you at all.

No anger here buddy, just disbelief that you think it's ok.
Please note smiley face at end of message.....
Good luck

[Polarbear]

Re: Reseting Page counter - Ricoh

I can only see that this would be at all ok, if you replace each and every motor and clutch = remanufacture the machine.

Then I would say yes, this could go as round 2.

But if you just dump in a few feed rollers and drums and wipe it down?? (Not saying this is what you are doing, but it is possible!) Then I'm with the guys who deem it fraud!

[kelisa]

Re: Reseting Page counter - Ricoh

No anger here buddy, just disbelief that you think it's ok.
Please note smiley face at end of message.....
Good luck

cheers to u ..

[kelisa]

Re: Reseting Page counter - Ricoh

I can only see that this would be at all ok, if you replace each and every motor and clutch = remanufacture the machine.

Then I would say yes, this could go as round 2.

But if you just dump in a few feed rollers and drums and wipe it down?? (Not saying this is what you are doing, but it is possible!) Then I'm with the guys who deem it fraud!

There are many terms one may call it. As long as the customer is aware that the machine is used, one can call it, preowned, used, refurbished, retuned, and the seller, does his part to guranteed good printouts, and the customer is happy with the service. There is no fraud.

Unless, the seller, package the machine, as NEW, when its used, there is clearly cheating. my 2cents.

[sandmanmac]

Re: Reseting Page counter - Ricoh

There are many terms one may call it. As long as the customer is aware that the machine is used, one can call it, preowned, used, refurbished, retuned, and the seller, does his part to guranteed good printouts, and the customer is happy with the service. There is no fraud.

Unless, the seller, package the machine, as NEW, when its used, there is clearly cheating. my 2cents.

There are also those that wish to reset the counters to zero to cover up the excessive use a particular machine has had, so they can then sell it for a much higher price than it is worth, regardless of the overall current performance of the machine. This, in my experience, is the usual reason for people asking "how to do it"....just my 2 cents

[skynetto]

Re: Reseting Page counter - Ricoh

We've always sold machines with original counters. When someone want the machine refurbished with counters to zero we provide to him a recent proof of the real counters the machines had prior to resetting the counters.

[ruben]

Re: Reseting Page counter - Ricoh

Giving a copier a 'haircut' (or a full military shave) for the convenience of the customer doesn't make sense to me.

We've always sold machines with original counters. When someone want the machine refurbished with counters to zero we provide to him a recent proof of the real counters the machines had prior to resetting the counters.

Easily faked, sadly.

[kelisa]

Re: Reseting Page counter - Ricoh

the implication can be endless.