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  • Vioksrall
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • Sep 2010
    • 84

    #1

    MPC4502 Copy quality problem.

    I need your help guys. Our customer that has 5-month old MPC4502 complained about copy/print quality problem. It happens only once for about more or less hundred copies. It seems the residue of the previous copies and prints wasn't cleaned very well. I checked and cleaned all possible causes like the PCUs, TBU and Fusing Unit but I see no problem. Is there anyone has a problem like this? Thanks in advance.
  • ruben
    The New Guy

    1,000+ Posts
    • Oct 2012
    • 1203

    #2
    Re: MPC4502 Copy quality problem.

    What paper weight are they using? Have you tried increasing the fusing temperatures? Have you replaced the ITB cleaning unit?

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    • Vioksrall
      Technician

      50+ Posts
      • Sep 2010
      • 84

      #3
      Re: MPC4502 Copy quality problem.

      Originally posted by ruben
      What paper weight are they using? Have you tried increasing the fusing temperatures? Have you replaced the ITB cleaning unit?
      ITB Cleaning Unit looks good. They are using 80gsm only but I have not tried adjusting fusing temperatures coz MPC4502 has sensitive fuser unit I'm afraid it will get damage. Thanks.

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      • turbojetboy
        Trusted Tech

        250+ Posts
        • Aug 2009
        • 279

        #4
        Re: MPC4502 Copy quality problem.

        Well known problem, answer is in this bulletin.201306131107.pdf

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        • Vioksrall
          Technician

          50+ Posts
          • Sep 2010
          • 84

          #5
          Re: MPC4502 Copy quality problem.

          Originally posted by turbojetboy
          Well known problem, answer is in this bulletin.[ATTACH]21440[/ATTACH]
          Done the adjustment settings but just today the customer called again about the same problem..

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          • CanadianKiwi
            Technician
            • Nov 2012
            • 12

            #6
            Re: MPC4502 Copy quality problem.

            The fusers in these are crap. Worst design Ricoh ever came up with. Replace the fuser.

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            • ptrflrs
              Glorified Parts Swapper

              100+ Posts
              • Dec 2010
              • 192

              #7
              Re: MPC4502 Copy quality problem.

              Originally posted by Vioksrall
              Done the adjustment settings but just today the customer called again about the same problem..
              If it is fusing properly and looks like smears try setting 1801-072 to 3% to speed up the fuser motor. There is a buckle that forms caused by the registration roller driving faster than the fuser causing smears on most of the machines we have put out there.
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              • turbojetboy
                Trusted Tech

                250+ Posts
                • Aug 2009
                • 279

                #8
                Re: MPC4502 Copy quality problem.

                I have setup a number of these machines as per the bulletin, some of them did the offsetting basically from new. I always put a new fuser in at the same time. Thes machines have performed much better.....however if your fuser has done anywhere between 30k to 150k it may need to be replaced. These fusers can fail early with any or all of these issues; offsetting, noise, jamming or total breakdown with sc codes.

                The bulletin does seem to address the issue of staining when you have low coverage bw printing offsetting problems. We have seen the fuser motor speed issue and this seems mostly related to A3 size paper.

                Good luck. Just remember - if they where perfect we would all be looking for a new job!

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                • Debs1964
                  Service Manager

                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 1693

                  #9
                  Re: MPC4502 Copy quality problem.

                  Originally posted by turbojetboy
                  Good luck. Just remember - if they where perfect we would all be looking for a new job!
                  That's what I tell customers when they complain that machines are unreliable LOL
                  There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary maths and those who don't

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                  • SargeNZ
                    Trusted Tech

                    250+ Posts
                    • May 2012
                    • 263

                    #10
                    Re: MPC4502 Copy quality problem.

                    The fusing sleeve assemblies for the MPC3502 and MPC4502 have been updated with new part numbers. We have had a couple of machines start to offset very early in their life, the bulletin adjustments did not help, so the fusers were refurbished with the new parts and the problem went away.

                    These machines are also much less tolerant of incorrect paper type settings from the driver. The client needs to tell you what GSM they are printing onto, as the difference between the 'plain' and 'middle thick' settings is quite small, unlike earlier MPC machines where you could get away with putting 120gsm duplex through without changing the settings. I guess this is all about the machines being more efficient with power.

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