Mp3350 scan density calibrate?

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  • mrfuser
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    • May 2007
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    #16
    Re: Mp3350 scan density calibrate?

    Please note::: printing is perfect from PC any size and direction. Scan to email is perfect any size or direction. Thus if laser was shot it would be poor even on print. Also why would scan to email generate a good image if the doc feeder was warped?

    guru?

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    • copyaction
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      #17
      Re: Mp3350 scan density calibrate?

      just out of curiosity, it is free to try going and lifting the left front side of the scanner and then trying to scan or copy, WHY ARE YOU FIGHTING THIS KNOWN ISSUE?

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      • slimslob
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        #18
        Re: Mp3350 scan density calibrate?

        Have you tried any of the suggestions given so far? You may have multiple problems. One causing a slight loss of image in the print density from a dirty shield glass but not enough to be noticeable during printing. Another causing a slight loss of scan density but not enough to be noticeable in scan to email. During copying, they add together to become noticeable.

        Your original post did not say that printinng was good to all sizes and orientations. It only said print was good.

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        • sandmanmac
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          #19
          Re: Mp3350 scan density calibrate?

          Direct from GG:
          D017/D018/D019/D020 LIGHT/FADED IMAGE / COPIES MODE PRINTS ARE OK BUT COPIES ARE LIGHT. REPLACE PCU
          I have no explanation for the reason, But I've experienced it a couple of times myself, and the PCU was the issue - although in both cases it was overall light image quality, and not just one side or the other, but this is what I'd do

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          • jonezy999
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            #20
            Re: Mp3350 scan density calibrate?

            Originally posted by sandmanmac
            Direct from GG:
            D017/D018/D019/D020 LIGHT/FADED IMAGE / COPIES MODE PRINTS ARE OK BUT COPIES ARE LIGHT. REPLACE PCU
            I have no explanation for the reason, But I've experienced it a couple of times myself, and the PCU was the issue - although in both cases it was overall light image quality, and not just one side or the other, but this is what I'd do
            I have to agree on replacing the pcu and dev here, I have seen this quite a few times on this model. A page counter print looks fine, once copied it looses density. Are the counts for the PCU and dev near their yield?
            I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. ~Thomas Edison

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            • mrfuser
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              #21
              Re: Mp3350 scan density calibrate?

              Okay, all good ideas, but read this carefully all...

              When we SCAN TO EMAIL, the image is fine, no defects. If we PRINT OUT a report, OR PRINT from PC it is fine. Only when SCAN TO COPY does the defect appear. Thus is if was a laser it would ALWAYS be bad, if the doc feeder was bent it would make problems scanning to email as well.

              I understand this is a tough one, thus my request for help. Has ANYONE seen this?

              Thanks

              Kelly






              Originally posted by copyaction
              good idea, I think everyone assumed he already cleaned the optics, but given the way he is fighting the issue that has existed since the 1027 series, who knows????

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              • slimslob
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                #22
                Re: Mp3350 scan density calibrate?

                I think you need to start from a fixed reference point.
                1. Obtain some preprinted copier test charts with Black and White gray scale on at least two sides, preferrably all four. They are usually sold in packs of ten. Scan one to email and careefully compare the gray scales, especially the low end. If there is a difference no matter how slight, you have a minor scanning issue.
                2. Now download a printable test chart with Black and White gray scale on at least two sides, preferrably all four. Print the test chart and compare the gray scales. Again if there is a difference, you have a printing problem.


                One other thing, I always set the copier default to "Text" instead of "Text/Photo". This will tend to make the overall copy darker, especially if the original has slight differences in text density.

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                • jonezy999
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                  #23
                  Re: Mp3350 scan density calibrate?

                  Originally posted by mrfuser
                  Okay, all good ideas, but read this carefully all...

                  When we SCAN TO EMAIL, the image is fine, no defects. If we PRINT OUT a report, OR PRINT from PC it is fine. Only when SCAN TO COPY does the defect appear. Thus is if was a laser it would ALWAYS be bad, if the doc feeder was bent it would make problems scanning to email as well.

                  I understand this is a tough one, thus my request for help. Has ANYONE seen this?

                  Thanks

                  Kelly
                  Have you replaced PCU and dev yet?
                  I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. ~Thomas Edison

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                  • mrfuser
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                    #24
                    Re: Mp3350 scan density calibrate?

                    Please note everyone:

                    print is is perfect thus is can Not be pcu

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                    • copyaction
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                      #25
                      Re: Mp3350 scan density calibrate?

                      Originally posted by mrfuser
                      Please note everyone:

                      print is is perfect thus is can Not be pcu
                      hate to have to tell you but it can be the pcu when print is fine and copies are too lite (but usually the entire copy is lite in that case)

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                      • jonezy999
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                        #26
                        Re: Mp3350 scan density calibrate?

                        Originally posted by mrfuser
                        Please note everyone:

                        print is is perfect thus is can Not be pcu

                        Okay mate, I can read. I suggest you read what has been mentioned and try it. Replace PCU and dev together, clean optics and laser shield. If that does NOT get the copies perfect then it is time to look deeper.

                        Yes I know you say prints are fine but you have chosen to ignore what myself and others have suggested. As far as I can tell you have tried very little to get this fault resolved and if I were your customer I'd be expecting a quicker fix for such a minor problem.

                        PS It CAN be PCU and dev.
                        I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. ~Thomas Edison

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                        • mrfuser
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                          #27
                          Re: Mp3350 scan density calibrate?

                          Ok logic logic out the window! I will try. I want blood if you are all giving me a line lol!


                          Originally posted by jonezy999
                          Okay mate, I can read. I suggest you read what has been mentioned and try it. Replace PCU and dev together, clean optics and laser shield. If that does NOT get the copies perfect then it is time to look deeper.

                          Yes I know you say prints are fine but you have chosen to ignore what myself and others have suggested. As far as I can tell you have tried very little to get this fault resolved and if I were your customer I'd be expecting a quicker fix for such a minor problem.

                          PS It CAN be PCU and dev.

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                          • jonezy999
                            just one copy??

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                            #28
                            Re: Mp3350 scan density calibrate?

                            Originally posted by mrfuser
                            Ok logic logic out the window! I will try. I want blood if you are all giving me a line lol!

                            Haha, I know it defies what we all know about copies and prints but we are not trying to screw you over, like I said, I have had this most likely half a dozen times on these boxes. Best of luck and I hope it gets you and your customer out of the $h!+
                            I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. ~Thomas Edison

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                            • Ricoh-ono
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                              #29
                              Re: Mp3350 scan density calibrate?

                              After cleaning the optics change gamma settings SP4-918. They are defaulted to 15. I raise them to 18 or higher. Higher the number - Darker the image. Hope this helps.
                              Do what you can, with what you have, where you are. ~Theodore Roosevelt

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                              • mrfuser
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                                #30
                                Re: Mp3350 scan density calibrate?

                                Made density adjustment sp4918, cleaned laser and changed pcu. All good!

                                now I go beat head on wall!

                                thanks all!

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