Toner on Metis printouts can by erased

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  • swissriddle
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 8

    #1

    [Misc] Toner on Metis printouts can by erased

    Hello World
    The letters and lines can be erased by a normal eraser....

    Any ideas?


    - Rise the fusing temperature wasn't successful
    - Firmware are up to date (2013-10-28)
    - Machines are new. (500-1000 printouts)
  • Zeldaman
    Senior Tech

    500+ Posts
    • Mar 2011
    • 946

    #2
    Re: Toner on Metis printouts can by erased

    Hi there!
    Which type of Metis, what kinda paper, some more details please.
    Greetings...

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    • swissriddle
      Junior Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 8

      #3
      Re: Toner on Metis printouts can by erased

      Originally posted by Zeldaman
      Hi there!
      Which type of Metis, what kinda paper, some more details please.
      Greetings...
      it's happend an all METIS. Actually on the MPC3003, 3503, 4503 and 5503.
      For this issue, the type of paper it doesen't matter.. but anyway, it's a high Quality paper from ricoh ltd.

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      • Gift
        Service Manager

        1,000+ Posts
        • Mar 2011
        • 2455

        #4
        Re: Toner on Metis printouts can by erased

        Interesting but not reproduceable with my demo machines (loaded with color copy paper)

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        • swissriddle
          Junior Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 8

          #5
          Re: Toner on Metis printouts can by erased

          Originally posted by Gift
          Interesting but not reproduceable with my demo machines (loaded with color copy paper)

          I tryed on many machines.. about 20! and it happened on all of These. i just tryed with normal 80gr/m2 with paper, not Color copy
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          • slimslob
            Retired

            Site Contributor
            25,000+ Posts
            • May 2013
            • 37048

            #6
            Re: Toner on Metis printouts can by erased

            Does it only happen in spots or can you erase the entire page? If it only in spots, I would suspect something involving the paper. It could be excess moisture from improper storage.

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            • Gift
              Service Manager

              1,000+ Posts
              • Mar 2011
              • 2455

              #7
              Re: Toner on Metis printouts can by erased

              That's pretty strange - I tried really hard with an eraser but no effect. Can do a test with normal paper tomorrow but I'm shure I would've get calls if one of our picky customers would have recognize this.

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              • salvador zambrano
                Technician
                • Nov 2011
                • 23

                #8
                Re: Toner on Metis printouts can by erased

                Have you tried replacing hot roller ? (seeing that it new you might not want to replace it.) but I have seen the inner coating in hot roller start to flake off and cause problems like yours. just an idea to check.

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                • swissriddle
                  Junior Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 8

                  #9
                  Re: Toner on Metis printouts can by erased

                  Originally posted by Gift
                  That's pretty strange - I tried really hard with an eraser but no effect. Can do a test with normal paper tomorrow but I'm shure I would've get calls if one of our picky customers would have recognize this.
                  Hi, did you tried it? I have replaced the fusing unit, but i still have the same Problem..

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                  • Elmo
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                    • Feb 2010
                    • 541

                    #10
                    Re: Toner on Metis printouts can by erased

                    Hi are you using original toners
                    I Used To Live To Fix Things Now i Fix Things To Live

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                    • swissriddle
                      Junior Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 8

                      #11
                      Re: Toner on Metis printouts can by erased

                      Originally posted by Elmo
                      Hi are you using original toners
                      of course, all original parts

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                      • Iowatech
                        Not a service manager

                        2,500+ Posts
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 3930

                        #12
                        Re: Toner on Metis printouts can by erased

                        This might be stupid, and if so sorry about that, but what is "Metis"? I tried searching for it, but couldn't find anything useful.
                        Just want to make sure I'm not missing something important.

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                        • turbojetboy
                          Trusted Tech

                          250+ Posts
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 279

                          #13
                          Re: Toner on Metis printouts can by erased

                          Originally posted by Iowatech
                          This might be stupid, and if so sorry about that, but what is "Metis"? I tried searching for it, but couldn't find anything useful.
                          Just want to make sure I'm not missing something important.
                          It is important, so here is what it's all about - The Greek word metis meant a quality that combined wisdom and cunning. This quality was considered to be highly admirable and was regarded by Athenians as one of the notable characteristics of the Athenian character. Metis was the one who gave Zeus a potion to cause Kronos to vomit out Zeus' siblings


                          Got it?

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                          • slimslob
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                            • May 2013
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                            #14
                            Re: Toner on Metis printouts can by erased

                            Originally posted by Iowatech
                            This might be stupid, and if so sorry about that, but what is "Metis"? I tried searching for it, but couldn't find anything useful.
                            Just want to make sure I'm not missing something important.
                            Read all the posts and you shoulds be able to figure it out.

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                            • Bantams
                              Senior Tech

                              500+ Posts
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 603

                              #15
                              Re: Toner on Metis printouts can by erased

                              Metis is the name given to the machine that replaced the Athena and Apollons C3s

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