Ricoh 3030 with no toner in Type 1027 PCU...

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • tcs04
    FORMER Techie

    1,000+ Posts
    • Apr 2009
    • 1183

    #31
    Re: Ricoh 3030 with no toner in Type 1027 PCU...

    Originally posted by slimslob
    The Type 1027 is recommended by Ricoh for those who don't want to PM the PCU. The only thing is you have to turn on SP 2804 New PCU Check.
    2804 is a DFU in the manual/ but may work IF the push switch is fitted (?)
    agree re the erase lamps but Dev bias seems logical due to gritty copies.

    Comment

    • mikadonovan
      Senior Tech

      Site Contributor
      2,500+ Posts
      • May 2008
      • 2931

      #32
      Re: Ricoh 3030 with no toner in Type 1027 PCU...

      By golly, foo, you ought to get this one figured out. the response to this thread has been most excellent with tons of good suggestions. kinda nice when the best in the business give you this kind of attention. CTN rules.
      NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING

      Comment

      • tcs04
        FORMER Techie

        1,000+ Posts
        • Apr 2009
        • 1183

        #33
        Re: Ricoh 3030 with no toner in Type 1027 PCU...

        Originally posted by mikadonovan
        By golly, foo, you ought to get this one figured out. the response to this thread has been most excellent with tons of good suggestions. kinda nice when the best in the business give you this kind of attention. CTN rules.
        Hey Mika,
        Going a bit "Bill and Ted" there!

        Just needs a "dude" and a bit ot air guitar!

        Comment

        • mikadonovan
          Senior Tech

          Site Contributor
          2,500+ Posts
          • May 2008
          • 2931

          #34
          Re: Ricoh 3030 with no toner in Type 1027 PCU...

          Originally posted by tcs04
          Hey Mika,
          Going a bit "Bill and Ted" there!

          Just needs a "dude" and a bit ot air guitar!
          just got a galaxy note 2 and it tells me instantly that I have an email. I should turn thaI ff. ive been off work for 4 hours and consumed beer since 5 or so. id better stay off here. he he
          NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING

          Comment

          • tcs04
            FORMER Techie

            1,000+ Posts
            • Apr 2009
            • 1183

            #35
            Re: Ricoh 3030 with no toner in Type 1027 PCU...

            Originally posted by mikadonovan
            just got a galaxy note 2 and it tells me instantly that I have an email. I should turn thaI ff. ive been off work for 4 hours and consumed beer since 5 or so. id better stay off here. he he
            Also have Note 2! deadly!
            Re the beer, as per B&T.... "Any Way the wind blows"

            Comment

            • Foo
              Trusted Tech

              Site Contributor
              100+ Posts
              • Nov 2009
              • 199

              #36
              Re: Ricoh 3030 with no toner in Type 1027 PCU...

              LOL...I also have a Note 2. Had it a year...love it.

              Yes there have been some great helpful ideas and I am returning to the machine this morning.
              A lovely 75 mile drive to check over the list of ideas I have been given from everyone.

              The Erase Lamp...whats the best way to test that. SP switch to turn it on and off with door open?
              Just have not had to use that one.

              Also whats a good ohm number to check for drum ground?

              Thanks
              Jeff

              Comment

              • tcs04
                FORMER Techie

                1,000+ Posts
                • Apr 2009
                • 1183

                #37
                Re: Ricoh 3030 with no toner in Type 1027 PCU...

                Originally posted by Foo
                LOL...I also have a Note 2. Had it a year...love it.

                Yes there have been some great helpful ideas and I am returning to the machine this morning.
                A lovely 75 mile drive to check over the list of ideas I have been given from everyone.

                The Erase Lamp...whats the best way to test that. SP switch to turn it on and off with door open?
                Just have not had to use that one.

                Also whats a good ohm number to check for drum ground?

                Thanks
                Jeff
                Erase lamp should be somewhere in SP5804

                Drum earth, normally below 5 ohms (ish)

                I would still look for the dev drive (bias) continuity as the probable cause, takes a while to strip, but sometimes it's worth "biting the bullet"

                Comment

                • Foo
                  Trusted Tech

                  Site Contributor
                  100+ Posts
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 199

                  #38
                  Re: Ricoh 3030 with no toner in Type 1027 PCU...

                  "I would still look for the dev drive (bias) continuity as the probable cause, takes a while to strip, but sometimes it's worth "biting the bullet"

                  Whats the check for that? I assume it's a drive to gnd. check but where's the best place to get that done?

                  So silly...12 years and never had this kind of problem with a unit...oh yeah and it's 75 miles away.

                  Thanks
                  Jeff

                  Comment

                  • Tonerbomb
                    AutoMajical Resolutionist

                    Site Contributor
                    2,500+ Posts
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 2589

                    #39
                    Re: Ricoh 3030 with no toner in Type 1027 PCU...

                    Have you cleaned the connector in the back of the machine, that the pcu plugs into???? BTW this machine originally had a rebuild able pcu in it, and by useing the 1027 pcu your cpc is now way above the manufacturers estimate. Been down that not profitable road before.
                    Mystic Crystal Revelations

                    Comment

                    • tcs04
                      FORMER Techie

                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 1183

                      #40
                      Re: Ricoh 3030 with no toner in Type 1027 PCU...

                      Originally posted by Foo
                      "I would still look for the dev drive (bias) continuity as the probable cause, takes a while to strip, but sometimes it's worth "biting the bullet"

                      Whats the check for that? I assume it's a drive to gnd. check but where's the best place to get that done?

                      So silly...12 years and never had this kind of problem with a unit...oh yeah and it's 75 miles away.

                      Thanks
                      Jeff
                      See attached,

                      Remove unit, push "B", release slowly. If it sticks, that's probably the problem.

                      if you can get to the front of the mag roller you can check continuity from the bias tag at the rear pcb, not easy to reach this tag.

                      otherwise strip down the back (flywheel / pcb bracket etc) and remove the boss holding shaft "B"

                      As a quick fix you could lub the shaft with wd40 or similar to free shaft B up, but may not last.
                      Attached Files

                      Comment

                      • Foo
                        Trusted Tech

                        Site Contributor
                        100+ Posts
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 199

                        #41
                        Re: Ricoh 3030 with no toner in Type 1027 PCU...

                        Originally posted by tcs04
                        See attached,

                        Remove unit, push "B", release slowly. If it sticks, that's probably the problem.

                        if you can get to the front of the mag roller you can check continuity from the bias tag at the rear pcb, not easy to reach this tag.

                        otherwise strip down the back (flywheel / pcb bracket etc) and remove the boss holding shaft "B"

                        As a quick fix you could lub the shaft with wd40 or similar to free shaft B up, but may not last.
                        I'm in the car and headed to try out your idea as well as others (1 at a time...LOL).

                        Thanks for the pic!

                        Jeff

                        Comment

                        • Foo
                          Trusted Tech

                          Site Contributor
                          100+ Posts
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 199

                          #42
                          Re: Ricoh 3030 with no toner in Type 1027 PCU...

                          In front of machine right now. I cleaned & sprayed a drop or 2 of wd40 on the pcu drive pin. I have tested 200 plus copies so far. The first copy of each run has a light band of dev. on the back side lead edge. That ends up touching the second copy contaminating it, but after that (98 copies) they look fine, feel fine. Do another run and exact same thing, first 2 have some dev. contamination. This a step forward as all were contaminated previously.

                          Any other ideas on the banding?
                          I probably will replace the pcu drive pin (correct name?) just to not get a recall on it.

                          Thanks everyone...I think I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

                          Jeff

                          Comment

                          • tcs04
                            FORMER Techie

                            1,000+ Posts
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 1183

                            #43
                            Re: Ricoh 3030 with no toner in Type 1027 PCU...

                            Originally posted by Foo
                            In front of machine right now. I cleaned & sprayed a drop or 2 of wd40 on the pcu drive pin. I have tested 200 plus copies so far. The first copy of each run has a light band of dev. on the back side lead edge. That ends up touching the second copy contaminating it, but after that (98 copies) they look fine, feel fine. Do another run and exact same thing, first 2 have some dev. contamination. This a step forward as all were contaminated previously.

                            Any other ideas on the banding?
                            I probably will replace the pcu drive pin (correct name?) just to not get a recall on it.

                            Thanks everyone...I think I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

                            Jeff
                            Probably slight overtone causing the toner on the back lead edge. Is it dev (grit) or toner?
                            If dev you still may have still have poor bias letting the dev fall off the mag roller.
                            Any readings for vsp vsg vt?

                            Make sure its the dev drive you replace. Would probably clean up ok.

                            Hope it works out

                            Happy hols

                            Comment

                            • slimslob
                              Retired

                              Site Contributor
                              25,000+ Posts
                              • May 2013
                              • 36833

                              #44
                              Re: Ricoh 3030 with no toner in Type 1027 PCU...

                              Originally posted by Foo
                              In front of machine right now. I cleaned & sprayed a drop or 2 of wd40 on the pcu drive pin. I have tested 200 plus copies so far. The first copy of each run has a light band of dev. on the back side lead edge. That ends up touching the second copy contaminating it, but after that (98 copies) they look fine, feel fine. Do another run and exact same thing, first 2 have some dev. contamination. This a step forward as all were contaminated previously.

                              Any other ideas on the banding?
                              I probably will replace the pcu drive pin (correct name?) just to not get a recall on it.

                              Thanks everyone...I think I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

                              Jeff
                              The light band on the lead edge of the back side is coming from the transfer roller. Replace it the and they should go away.

                              Comment

                              • tcs04
                                FORMER Techie

                                1,000+ Posts
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 1183

                                #45
                                Re: Ricoh 3030 with no toner in Type 1027 PCU...

                                Originally posted by slimslob
                                The light band on the lead edge of the back side is coming from the transfer roller. Replace it the and they should go away.
                                But the transfer roller gets it from the drum which gets it from the dev unit, probably due to overtoning.

                                Comment

                                Working...