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  • NeoMatrix
    Senior Tech.

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    • Nov 2010
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    #1

    Saphire/Stonedyne hot roller coating.

    This may appear as a dumb question for now, but I wonder if it's possible to approach cooking utensile manufactures
    and have them coat fuser hot-rollers with stonedyne/saphire non-stick hard wearing surface material . I beleive it could be the solution to a lot of copier fuser problems. It may even lead to faster colour copiers...

    For those that don't know stonedyne is the new whizz-bang cookware coating that is replacing the teflon chemical coating.
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  • BLADE
    former propeller tester

    250+ Posts
    • Dec 2009
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    #2
    Re: Saphire/Stonedyne hot roller coating.

    if it stops eggs from wrapping around the hot roller its a great idea. otherwise its a fukt idea. well maybe not a totally fukt idea, probably just a standard fuct idea
    Last edited by BLADE; 02-10-2014, 08:31 AM.

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    • NeoMatrix
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      #3
      Re: Saphire/Stonedyne hot roller coating.

      Originally posted by BLADE
      if it stops eggs from wrapping around the hot roller its a great idea. otherwise its a fukt idea. well maybe not a totally fukt idea, probably just a standard fuct idea
      Sh!t now you got me thinking.
      We'll be able to put strips of bacon or ham in the paper trays and it won't get stuck in the new stonedine coated fuser rollers. It will save me from taking my lunch break. I'll just run a sandwich through the fuser (in SP mode ) to toast it.
      Problem's are now sorted... I'll go from 50hrs work a week to 55, of coarse I'll still only get paid for 38hrs.
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      • collme
        Ricoh tech

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        • Apr 2010
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        #4
        Re: Saphire/Stonedyne hot roller coating.

        The everlasting fuser roller will be created, so where do the manufactures make their profit to sustain the company for future models. If everything lasted to long then companies would go bust and we would be out of a job as the machines would end up to reliable. Lets just stick (pun intended) to having to replace parts and keep us all in a job we all love lol.

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        • slimslob
          Retired

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          • May 2013
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          #5
          Re: Saphire/Stonedyne hot roller coating.

          Stonedyne is oven safe up to 350 degrees farenheit. That is 177 degrees celsius. That would be fine for most low end machines, but high volumn and production equipment general speaking run at a higher temperature.

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          • NeoMatrix
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            #6
            Re: Saphire/Stonedyne hot roller coating.

            Originally posted by collme
            The everlasting fuser roller will be created, so where do the manufactures make their profit to sustain the company for future models. If everything lasted to long then companies would go bust and we would be out of a job as the machines would end up to reliable. Lets just stick (pun intended) to having to replace parts and keep us all in a job we all love lol.
            Hmmm.... Yer... I empathise with you there in a sort of way.

            You also have the no-repeat/ no-return sales customer who does'nt like XYZcopier because the heap of crap jambs alot in the fuser. Or colour copy quality is crud because of poor fusing. You also have the tech running around doing more fuser repairs when fuser hotroller coating is stripped, removed or deliberately cut. Fuser rebuilds are not high on my want to repair list. But it is my job, so I can empathise with you just a tad.

            We can always sell teflon coated rollers to time-materials customer, and fit stonedine rollers to service contract customers. A win win in a strange way. Of coarse this would only work if we had stonedine rollers.
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            • BLADE
              former propeller tester

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              #7
              Re: Saphire/Stonedyne hot roller coating.

              I bought a superduper nonstick pan as advertised on tv. It even performed like the adds for awhile, but a couple of months on its just another pan

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              • NeoMatrix
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                #8
                Re: Saphire/Stonedyne hot roller coating.

                Originally posted by BLADE
                I bought a superduper nonstick pan as advertised on tv. It even performed like the adds for awhile, but a couple of months on its just another pan
                Yeah righto. Which brand did you buy ?
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                • BLADE
                  former propeller tester

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                  #9
                  Re: Saphire/Stonedyne hot roller coating.

                  Originally posted by NeoMatrix
                  Yeah righto. Which brand did you buy ?
                  small voice is saying dont name the brand however it would seem to be part of a worldwide legitimate scam. I got an antiwrinkle cream about the same time and thats been very effective stopping things sticking to my face

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                  • Polarbear
                    Service Manager

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                    • Feb 2012
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                    #10
                    Re: Saphire/Stonedyne hot roller coating.

                    We have an excellent company in South Africa that recoat hotrollers from the small AE011086 to the big gun AE011108. They strip the previous coating on a lathe (and at the same time check for imperfections - which will cause a recoat reject). So far can only say that it works a charm, and we save a packet on new rollers!

                    So don't knock recoats until you tried them!
                    Press the GREEN button!!

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                    • coolbeer
                      Trusted Tech
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 100

                      #11
                      Re: Saphire/Stonedyne hot roller coating.

                      First copiers I worked on you never needed to replace the heater roller ( Nashua 1215 ).

                      Hell im getting old, but the memories holding up tho!

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                      • NeoMatrix
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                        #12
                        Re: Saphire/Stonedyne hot roller coating.

                        Originally posted by coolbeer
                        First copiers I worked on you never needed to replace the heater roller ( Nashua 1215 ).

                        Hell im getting old, but the memories holding up tho!
                        Re : No fuser roller changes.
                        Yes I too worked on the old liquid Nashua,with 50 gallons of iso-par liquid in them. I can't remember their model numbers now ;it was 26,27,years ago.
                        Yeah the same as the old ,old did I say old Canons?
                        I believe they were the first of the NP series NP120 ,NP125. They had super solid fuser rollers in them.
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                        • coolbeer
                          Trusted Tech
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 100

                          #13
                          Re: Saphire/Stonedyne hot roller coating.

                          Hi Neo,

                          I remember them, cold pressure fusing, plain paper in, fax paper out.

                          Them were the days we used to make real money and have time to spend it.

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                          • blackcat4866
                            Master Of The Obvious

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                            • Jul 2007
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                            #14
                            Re: Saphire/Stonedyne hot roller coating.

                            The Mita 900D also did cold pressure fusing. It was wondrous ... until you got a paper jam. I've still got a pair of the 14" long tweezers that came with the machine to remove bits of paper through 25mm diameter portholes through the front frame.

                            I saw a few of the NP120 also. It took me a while to figure out why there was no Off/On switch. =^..^=
                            If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                            1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                            3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                            4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

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                            • Tonerbomb
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                              #15
                              Re: Saphire/Stonedyne hot roller coating.

                              Originally posted by blackcat4866
                              The Mita 900D also did cold pressure fusing. It was wondrous ... until you got a paper jam. I've still got a pair of the 14" long tweezers that came with the machine to remove bits of paper through 25mm diameter portholes through the front frame.

                              I saw a few of the NP120 also. It took me a while to figure out why there was no Off/On switch. =^..^=
                              Ahh yes BC i also saw the 900D and 500D, and the Olivetti 1450, Apeco superstat's. Back in the day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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