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  • nos
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • Nov 2008
    • 78

    #1

    Ricoh MP6000 Jamming

    Before i explode thought i would shoot this past everyone and see if there are any more ideas or if one of you have seen this. I have a ricoh mp6000 with 3.5 mill on the meter. It started jamming all the time. When it tries to feed it makes a noise then then shows a jam and shoots the paper to reg, B2 door flops down and thats it. Shows a jam 12.
    I have tried everything from switching feed units, to rebuilding the feed units (all of them) with all new gears and belts. I also replaced reg drive motor and belt. still no luck.
    After swapping feed units between trays i did get it to run for about a day. Thought it was just the feed unit and then customer called and said it was doing the same thing.
    Has anyone seen this? Im just about out of hair from pulling it out over this one
  • slimslob
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    • May 2013
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    #2
    Re: Ricoh MP6000 Jamming

    There is a bulletin on this. It has to do with the one way gears in the feed station. The bulletin will tell you which gear based on the jam number and source tray.

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    • nos
      Technician

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      • Nov 2008
      • 78

      #3
      Re: Ricoh MP6000 Jamming

      I did see that., thats why i replaced all of the one way gears in the feed unit but still no luck.
      I also did the motor adjustment they talked about. Still no help.
      thanks for the help, any more ideas

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      • vargue
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        • Oct 2011
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        #4
        Re: Ricoh MP6000 Jamming

        yo said that machine 3 million .i think that traction units are worn .not rebuild. motors my be exhausted.become weak. absolutely. developer get from them .gears not only become thread.

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        • kannuki2
          Trusted Tech
          250+ Posts
          • Feb 2012
          • 398

          #5
          Re: Ricoh MP6000 Jamming

          Have u clean the registration sensor and relay sensor? Also have the customer use tray2. If no jam then go after the paper feed unit for tandem tray.

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          • apump
            Trusted Tech

            100+ Posts
            • Mar 2009
            • 160

            #6
            Re: Ricoh MP6000 Jamming

            sounds like you have toner and developer spilling down the back going into these units. I had this swapped around worked for about a day. went back and started vacuuming, in went all the way down to the bottom with toner. after vacuuming and replacing dev unit and paper feed assy never went back. you can just replace the bushings in the dev unit think theres about 6 of them. good luck

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            • Zeldaman
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              • Mar 2011
              • 946

              #7

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              • nos
                Technician

                50+ Posts
                • Nov 2008
                • 78

                #8
                Re: Ricoh MP6000 Jamming

                Ok thanks for all the suggestions,


                here's what i've replaced so far:

                there was developer on the feed units, so i replaced the bushings in the developer unit.
                replaced all gears on the back of the feed units
                did the feed motor adjustment procedure
                i've swapped feed units from one tray to another
                replaced the sensor at the b2 door area
                replaced the registration sensor
                swapped out the reg motor and belt

                still no luck. What else could i be missing its driving me CRAZY

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                • slimslob
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                  Re: Ricoh MP6000 Jamming

                  Originally posted by nos
                  Ok thanks for all the suggestions,


                  here's what i've replaced so far:

                  there was developer on the feed units, so i replaced the bushings in the developer unit.
                  replaced all gears on the back of the feed units
                  did the feed motor adjustment procedure
                  i've swapped feed units from one tray to another
                  replaced the sensor at the b2 door area
                  replaced the registration sensor
                  swapped out the reg motor and belt

                  still no luck. What else could i be missing its driving me CRAZY
                  Replace the machine?

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                  • Iowatech
                    Not a service manager

                    2,500+ Posts
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 3930

                    #10
                    Re: Ricoh MP6000 Jamming

                    Originally posted by nos
                    Ok thanks for all the suggestions,


                    here's what i've replaced so far:

                    there was developer on the feed units, so i replaced the bushings in the developer unit.
                    replaced all gears on the back of the feed units
                    did the feed motor adjustment procedure
                    i've swapped feed units from one tray to another
                    replaced the sensor at the b2 door area
                    replaced the registration sensor
                    swapped out the reg motor and belt

                    still no luck. What else could i be missing its driving me CRAZY
                    I don't work on that model, but for what it is worth here's what I've heard from techs who do -
                    If you've found developer outside the developer unit, you should replace the entire unit.
                    Best I can tell, here's why:
                    If the original bushings were leaking developer, the part that prevents developer from reaching the bushings has failed. The iron that developer is made out of is much harder than the bronze the bushing is made of, so new bushings will wear out much faster than you'd expect. Also, the shafts that those bushings support probably have been worn by the developer that was passing through the faulty original bushings.
                    I've been led to believe there are magnetic clutches that could be contaminated by the leaking developer as well. If that is the case, those clutches are done and need to be replaced.
                    Sorry if that was a waste of time.

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                    • Debs1964
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                      • Oct 2010
                      • 1687

                      #11
                      Re: Ricoh MP6000 Jamming

                      Have you checked the registration mylars?
                      There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary maths and those who don't

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                      • slimslob
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                        Re: Ricoh MP6000 Jamming

                        Originally posted by Debs1964
                        Have you checked the registration mylars?
                        Didn't even think of those, even though I have had to replace them in the past.

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                        • Herostrat
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                          • Oct 2012
                          • 220

                          #13
                          Re: Ricoh MP6000 Jamming

                          Take out and clean entire registration/Bypass assembly from developer before u change gears in feed units.
                          I made that mistake in the past thinking I wacumed it but piles that was left behind still found there way on to gears and made the mess after about 7 days.
                          Gears,springs,clutches,sliders,connectors and electronics...who on earth can tell what's wrong with it?

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                          • TonerMunkeh
                            Professional Moron

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                            • Apr 2008
                            • 3865

                            #14
                            Re: Ricoh MP6000 Jamming

                            Originally posted by Debs1964
                            Have you checked the registration mylars?
                            With 3 mil on the clock, those mylars will be toasted. B140 2665 and 2675.
                            It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

                            Hit it.

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                            • techsass
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                              • Dec 2010
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                              #15
                              Re: Ricoh MP6000 Jamming

                              I'm with Debs1964 slimslob & TonerMunkeh. That mylar usually goes out at around 2 million clicks.

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