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  • PacMusee
    Technician
    • Aug 2016
    • 38

    Printing from/saving to USB key 3.0 on MX565 & MX5070

    I recently noticed a problem on the MX-565 & MX-5070 type of copiers while trying to print a PDF file from a USB key. The key does work on my recent work computer, as I am able to put files on it, but is not recognised on older ones (XP can't handle it). The only difference with previous use of the USB print/save is that the USB key is clearly identified as 3.0. I've used other type of USB stick without problem in the past, and it still works now with older keys. But is it possible that Sharp doesn't recognise the new 3.0 version? When I plug it in a copier, it just isn't recognised like there's nothing plugged in...

    Anyone can confirm that they were able to use a 3.0 USB stick on these machine? Because it doesn't work on ours, either as a printing or saving option...
  • rspicer
    Technician

    Site Contributor
    50+ Posts
    • Oct 2015
    • 97

    #2
    Re: Printing from/saving to USB key 3.0 on MX565 & MX5070

    Service manual specifications only list USB 2.0, not 3.

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    • PacMusee
      Technician
      • Aug 2016
      • 38

      #3
      Re: Printing from/saving to USB key 3.0 on MX565 & MX5070

      Of course, but shouldn't the USB stick be recognised anyway, and work as a 2.0? This is a genuine Lexar product I'm talking about, not a chinese copy. This is going to be a big problem in the future when they stop manufacturing 2.0 USB key! Who really wants to explain to every user to be careful about which USB stick they use on copier?

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      • Phil B.
        Field Supervisor

        10,000+ Posts
        • Jul 2016
        • 22808

        #4
        Re: Printing from/saving to USB key 3.0 on MX565 & MX5070

        Originally posted by PacMusee
        Of course, but shouldn't the USB stick be recognised anyway, and work as a 2.0? This is a genuine Lexar product I'm talking about, not a chinese copy. This is going to be a big problem in the future when they stop manufacturing 2.0 USB key! Who really wants to explain to every user to be careful about which USB stick they use on copier?
        take out your service manual.. make a copy of the page defining 2.0 / 3.0 USB. Give it to the key op for each machine. That way they get it from the horses mouth, and you are off the hook.

        Frankly I doubt copier co's will switch to a 3.0 stick anytime soon.

        Keep in mine those units get placed all over the world. And with some other countries (not USA), the 'techs' that come here don't think: compatible toners/drums .... crappy Chinese parts... shitty paper should have ANY affect, and they are running older machines that you describe.

        My 2 cents

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        • PacMusee
          Technician
          • Aug 2016
          • 38

          #5
          Re: Printing from/saving to USB key 3.0 on MX565 & MX5070

          The Lexar products in my hand states "USB 3.1 (Gen 1) compatible; backwards compatible with USB 3.0 and 2.0 devices".
          Since the copiers are 2.0 devices, they should recognise the inserted flash drive, even if they don't offer the 3.0 advantage...

          So, has anyone else encountered the same problem? If there is no retro-compatibility (as advertised), consumers must be made aware of that before purchasing these items. I can totally believe for now it's not a Sharp problem in this case, but I just want to make sure nobody else can use a 3.0 memory stick!

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          • Phil B.
            Field Supervisor

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            • Jul 2016
            • 22808

            #6
            Re: Printing from/saving to USB key 3.0 on MX565 & MX5070

            Originally posted by PacMusee
            consumers must be made aware of that before purchasing these items. I can totally believe for now it's not a Sharp problem in this case, but I just want to make sure nobody else can use a 3.0 memory stick!
            IMHO the sales person should be made aware and to inform the end user BEFORE purchase.

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            • bsm2
              IT Manager

              25,000+ Posts
              • Feb 2008
              • 27440

              #7
              Re: Printing from/saving to USB key 3.0 on MX565 & MX5070

              Plug it into the computer and print it. Who prints from a usb stick into copier? Think I got one call the in last 10 years
              Sales like to tell customers about but nobody really uses it. Just like scan to usb.

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              • guitar9199
                Service Manager

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                1,000+ Posts
                • Sep 2016
                • 1097

                #8
                Re: Printing from/saving to USB key 3.0 on MX565 & MX5070

                Originally posted by PacMusee
                Of course, but shouldn't the USB stick be recognised anyway, and work as a 2.0? This is a genuine Lexar product I'm talking about, not a chinese copy. This is going to be a big problem in the future when they stop manufacturing 2.0 USB key! Who really wants to explain to every user to be careful about which USB stick they use on copier?

                It's got to do with the rate of file transfer, not country of origin. USB 2 File Transfer rate is 480 megabits per second, while USB 3 is 4800 Mbps!! Even though the 565 is a fairly new machine, it's still built on a slightly older architecture so it can't handle the higher rate of transfer speed.

                Some USB keys don't work on ALL pieces of equipment. I worked on Canon before, and they liked Lexar USB drives but hated SanDisk. You want to update firmware on a Savin/Ricoh box?? You're going to need an old-school SD card to do it....and if it's older than the 03 series, it cannot be larger than 2 GB!!

                ...then again, I guess some customers would complain if the copier didn't unwrap the ream of paper FOR them, right??.........
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                • mansart
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                  • Apr 2009
                  • 851

                  #9
                  Re: Printing from/saving to USB key 3.0 on MX565 & MX5070

                  Originally posted by bsm2
                  Plug it into the computer and print it. Who prints from a usb stick into copier? Think I got one call the in last 10 years
                  Sales like to tell customers about but nobody really uses it. Just like scan to usb.
                  Ditto....I've shown it countless times......customers ooh and aah, but is honestly the last time they think about it

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                  • PacMusee
                    Technician
                    • Aug 2016
                    • 38

                    #10
                    Re: Printing from/saving to USB key 3.0 on MX565 & MX5070

                    Originally posted by bsm2
                    Plug it into the computer and print it. Who prints from a usb stick into copier? Think I got one call the in last 10 years
                    Sales like to tell customers about but nobody really uses it. Just like scan to usb.
                    I do it, and many other people do it too. It way faster and easier than going through a computer when the file is ready to print as is. Circumstances do not always permit the use of a computer when you're in another area than your own, and there are none free for your own use as a "visitor". Our entreprise is constitued of many buildings, and printing from USB is way more convenient than crossing the street to go back to our own desk...

                    Also, scanning to USB is EXTREMELY less problematic than sending out as email when dealing with a big color document! It's direct, so no problem with download/upload speed on the network... ;-)

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                    • bsm2
                      IT Manager

                      25,000+ Posts
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 27440

                      #11
                      Re: Printing from/saving to USB key 3.0 on MX565 & MX5070

                      Originally posted by PacMusee
                      I do it, and many other people do it too. It way faster and easier than going through a computer when the file is ready to print as is. Circumstances do not always permit the use of a computer when you're in another area than your own, and there are none free for your own use as a "visitor". Our entreprise is constitued of many buildings, and printing from USB is way more convenient than crossing the street to go back to our own desk...

                      Also, scanning to USB is EXTREMELY less problematic than sending out as email when dealing with a big color document! It's direct, so no problem with download/upload speed on the network... ;-)

                      You need to sell more machines if you have to cross a street to get your print jobs.
                      If thats what you have to deal with. Not all New Tech works with all models and may never work. Like printing from your phone.

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                      • PacMusee
                        Technician
                        • Aug 2016
                        • 38

                        #12
                        Re: Printing from/saving to USB key 3.0 on MX565 & MX5070

                        Originally posted by bsm2
                        You need to sell more machines if you have to cross a street to get your print jobs.
                        If thats what you have to deal with. Not all New Tech works with all models and may never work. Like printing from your phone.
                        What are you talking about?!? I am the client!
                        You're missing the point entirely, about our need of the USB functions on copier... It's easy, that's all.

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                        • bsm2
                          IT Manager

                          25,000+ Posts
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 27440

                          #13
                          Re: Printing from/saving to USB key 3.0 on MX565 & MX5070

                          Originally posted by PacMusee
                          What are you talking about?!? I am the client!
                          You're missing the point entirely, about our need of the USB functions on copier... It's easy, that's all.
                          Since 99.9% scan to email or folder is not only faster it maintains a record of the scan and who scanned it for security reasons. Some companies disable usb on there machines for security reasons to prevent anyone from scanning sensitive documents with no records. If usb works better for you great it's not the industry standard.

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                          • PacMusee
                            Technician
                            • Aug 2016
                            • 38

                            #14
                            Re: Printing from/saving to USB key 3.0 on MX565 & MX5070

                            Then you are of no help here. You do not know what or why we need it for, but only write about your point of view...

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                            • bsm2
                              IT Manager

                              25,000+ Posts
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 27440

                              #15
                              Re: Printing from/saving to USB key 3.0 on MX565 & MX5070

                              Most likely your machine doesn't support usb 3.0 and may never support it.

                              Your model only supports USB 2.0

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