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  • acribari
    Technician
    • Aug 2015
    • 45

    #1

    Sharp MX-M904 Image Shift

    Hello again,

    I have a customer that is trying to run perforated tickets on pre perforated paper. The image does not line up in the center of the perforated marks. They can shift it but then it hits the perforated border. If they shift it back it goes to far. Is there some way to image shift in micro increments? maybe 1/2 a millimeter shift ?

    Is there a software trick or maybe even a trick on the machine control panel after sending the job to hold?

    Thanks in advance. You guys have been very helpful to me on this forum. I am hoping someone has had this issue before and knows the answer.

    They only run this job once in a while but they run about 20K impressions for the job. Would be great to get the job lined up properly.
  • Phil B.
    Field Supervisor

    10,000+ Posts
    • Jul 2016
    • 22798

    #2
    Re: Sharp MX-M904 Image Shift

    Originally posted by acribari
    Hello again,I have a customer that is trying to run perforated tickets on pre perforated paper. The image does not line up in the center of the perforated marks. They can shift it but then it hits the perforated border. If they shift it back it goes to far. Is there some way to image shift in micro increments? maybe 1/2 a millimeter shift ?
    Is there a software trick or maybe even a trick on the machine control panel after sending the job to hold?
    Thanks in advance. You guys have been very helpful to me on this forum. I am hoping someone has had this issue before and knows the answer.
    They only run this job once in a while but they run about 20K impressions for the job. Would be great to get the job lined up properly.
    sounds like they don't have it setup properly... check driver for correct dimensions and/or cardstock type

    and yes there is in the SM how to adjust borders etc...

    it could be other factors..

    guides tight on media?

    what side/end is it mis adjusting?

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    • acribari
      Technician
      • Aug 2015
      • 45

      #3
      Re: Sharp MX-M904 Image Shift

      Originally posted by Phil B.
      sounds like they don't have it setup properly... check driver for correct dimensions and/or cardstock type

      and yes there is in the SM how to adjust borders etc...

      it could be other factors..

      guides tight on media?

      what side/end is it mis adjusting?
      I will be going over there on Friday. I will get back to you with more details. Basically they have a pre perforated sheet of about 20 tickets or so ( I will look at the sheet to make sure again) and when they try to center the print on each ticket to line up with the perforations they cant image shift it in micro adjustments to center the image on each ticket.

      I will try to get an example and explain more after I visit the site again.

      Thanks

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      • spanky
        Trusted Tech

        250+ Posts
        • Sep 2012
        • 468

        #4
        Re: Sharp MX-M904 Image Shift

        Sounds like they need to acquire a template for the media they are using.

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        • acribari
          Technician
          • Aug 2015
          • 45

          #5
          Re: Sharp MX-M904 Image Shift

          Originally posted by spanky
          Sounds like they need to acquire a template for the media they are using.


          How do you acquire a template for the media ?

          I'm not sure how to do this. I am new on this machine model.

          I am actually going over there now to see what I can do.

          Any info. would be great. I will report back after the call.

          Thanks

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          • spanky
            Trusted Tech

            250+ Posts
            • Sep 2012
            • 468

            #6
            Re: Sharp MX-M904 Image Shift

            The template is acquired from the manufacturer of the media.

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            • acribari
              Technician
              • Aug 2015
              • 45

              #7
              Re: Sharp MX-M904 Image Shift

              ok, so all the trays are feeding with the paper centered. The bypass tray is the problem. I can't seem to center the image. the bottom of the image is too close to the bottom of the sheet on 12 X 18 paper and card stock. Is there a way to center the bypass tray?

              I did the sim 40 - 2 to set up the paper sizes etc.... still same issue.

              the bottom is about a half inch off. the image needs to move up. when trying to use image shift up it moves the image down. If I put it on 0 image shift it's the same as no image shift.

              Any ideas? Is there a mechanical adjustment in the bypass feeder ? I even tried to slip the gears on the paper tray to make it more centered but it still wont center all the way.

              Thanks for any clues.

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              • Hansen88
                Service Manager

                Site Contributor
                1,000+ Posts
                • Dec 2009
                • 1054

                #8
                Re: Sharp MX-M904 Image Shift

                Does the bypass shift with only the 12x18 or does it do it on all paper sizes? I have never used 12x18 paper before so I dont know if you have to set the bypass for that size or if it recognizes it itself. If it does it with all paper sizes it would be a bypass calibration issue. Did you do the 50-22 bypass auto adjustment?

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                • Hansen88
                  Service Manager

                  Site Contributor
                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 1054

                  #9
                  Re: Sharp MX-M904 Image Shift

                  It looks like according to the operating guide that for 12x18 you would need to manually set the size for the bypass tray under type and size. Otherwise try the 50-22 auto size adjustment for the bypass.

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                  • acribari
                    Technician
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 45

                    #10
                    Re: Sharp MX-M904 Image Shift

                    Originally posted by Hansen88
                    Does the bypass shift with only the 12x18 or does it do it on all paper sizes? I have never used 12x18 paper before so I dont know if you have to set the bypass for that size or if it recognizes it itself. If it does it with all paper sizes it would be a bypass calibration issue. Did you do the 50-22 bypass auto adjustment?
                    All sizes. It does recognize 12 X 18 is loaded. I ran sim 40-2 but not sure if I did the correct sim. I have bypass tray Model MX-MF11. it sits on top of the high cap trays 5 and 6. Just wanted to be clear on that just in case.

                    I can only use the shift function to lower the image on the page. It will not move the image up. When I run Sim 40-2 it errors on the last step at minimum paper size. So I don't know if this is really the sim I should be using.

                    I can try the 50-22 that you mentioned. I do not see 50-22 in any of the service manuals or the install manual. Are you sure it is 50-22 ?

                    Thanks for the help. I will have to go back this week maybe Tuesday or Wednesday.
                    M1204

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                    • acribari
                      Technician
                      • Aug 2015
                      • 45

                      #11
                      Re: Sharp MX-M904 Image Shift

                      Originally posted by Hansen88
                      It looks like according to the operating guide that for 12x18 you would need to manually set the size for the bypass tray under type and size. Otherwise try the 50-22 auto size adjustment for the bypass.
                      Ok I will give it a try.

                      I posted at the same time you did. Make sure we are talking about the same bypass model.

                      Thanks

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                      • Hansen88
                        Service Manager

                        Site Contributor
                        1,000+ Posts
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 1054

                        #12
                        Re: Sharp MX-M904 Image Shift

                        Ok sounds like that is a unit I have not worked on. I was thinking standard type bypass. Not sure on any help I can give.

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                        • acribari
                          Technician
                          • Aug 2015
                          • 45

                          #13
                          Re: Sharp MX-M904 Image Shift

                          Does anybody have an answer for this issue?

                          I need to center the image on 12 X 18 and all other paper sizes from the multi bypass tray. The bypass is Model MX-MF11 and sits on top of the high capacity trays 5 and 6.

                          Is there any way to adjust the centering of the image? I can only get it to move the image down and not up. I need it to move at least 1/4 inch from the bottom. I can only shift it in the software and it only allows me to move the image closer to the bottom edge of the paper.

                          Is there a mechanical adjustment? Maybe a set up mistake?

                          I need some clues if you have any.

                          Thanks in advance.

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                          • spanky
                            Trusted Tech

                            250+ Posts
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 468

                            #14
                            Re: Sharp MX-M904 Image Shift

                            Does the copier read the proper size of the paper you are loading on the bypass tray.

                            If not the service manual says

                            Press the [Tray Paper Settings] key on the operation panel to
                            select paper sizes that are not detected automatically by the combination
                            of paper size and paper length sensor readings

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                            • spanky
                              Trusted Tech

                              250+ Posts
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 468

                              #15
                              Re: Sharp MX-M904 Image Shift

                              I just read earlier in your thread the paper size was reading properly.

                              Have you tried adjusting the centering with sim 50-10?

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