phoenix/griffin mfps mx-3050, 3070, 3550, 3570, 4050, 4070, 5050, 5070, 6050...

[Sage632]

Re: phoenix/griffin mfps mx-3050, 3070, 3550, 3570, 4050, 4070, 5050, 5070, 6050...

Update...

So sharp had originally told us to change the paper weight settings to 16-28 lbs in device control.

This made the problem worse.

Current orders are to reduce fusing heat -5 or -10.

This does not seem to work that well, though...

[bigdaddyooo]

Re: phoenix/griffin mfps mx-3050, 3070, 3550, 3570, 4050, 4070, 5050, 5070, 6050...

The 50-28 is no longer on these models. In setup, you HAVE TO do a 50-10. Very simple.
The bulletin tt-070918_1 states how to check temp offset.
I set up all the machines for my company and during setup of these models I do a 50-10 and 43-1 as follows, fuser temp level to -10 then fuser condition adj setting to default, then under system settings to common settings to device control, the plain paper setting is set for 16-23 lb paper. almost no curl occurs. I have had to lower the inlet guide plate to lowest max to insure the paper goes straight to the roller belt nip area and NOT at an angle. hope this helps

[Sage632]

Re: phoenix/griffin mfps mx-3050, 3070, 3550, 3570, 4050, 4070, 5050, 5070, 6050...

The 50-28 is no longer on these models. In setup, you HAVE TO do a 50-10. Very simple.
The bulletin tt-070918_1 states how to check temp offset.
I set up all the machines for my company and during setup of these models I do a 50-10 and 43-1 as follows, fuser temp level to -10 then fuser condition adj setting to default, then under system settings to common settings to device control, the plain paper setting is set for 16-23 lb paper. almost no curl occurs. I have had to lower the inlet guide plate to lowest max to insure the paper goes straight to the roller belt nip area and NOT at an angle. hope this helps

Will try this as well... Thanks!

[sharptech]

Re: phoenix/griffin mfps mx-3050, 3070, 3550, 3570, 4050, 4070, 5050, 5070, 6050...

I would make the lead edge and trail edge voids 1mm larger than what the manual says. Remember the trail edge of the first side becomes the lead edge of the second side when duplexing.

T.G.G.

[Sage632]

Re: phoenix/griffin mfps mx-3050, 3070, 3550, 3570, 4050, 4070, 5050, 5070, 6050...

I would make the lead edge and trail edge voids 1mm larger than what the manual says. Remember the trail edge of the first side becomes the lead edge of the second side when duplexing.

T.G.G.

I have tried this. Once it starts wrapping, even the cleaning page will wrap which has a massive gap on the first side and no printing on the second side...

[what_moustache]

[SharpSwe]

Re: phoenix/griffin mfps mx-3050, 3070, 3550, 3570, 4050, 4070, 5050, 5070, 6050...

Hi.

I'm not sure I've seen this issue, and not sure if this will help. But try this if you can.

On the Fusing unit, under it where the paper enters. There's a guiding metal plate than can be loosened by 2 screws. Making the gap abit larger for the paper to go through into the fusing unit. Make it larger and then fix the screws again.

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[Sage632]

Re: phoenix/griffin mfps mx-3050, 3070, 3550, 3570, 4050, 4070, 5050, 5070, 6050...

Hi.

I'm not sure I've seen this issue, and not sure if this will help. But try this if you can.

On the Fusing unit, under it where the paper enters. There's a guiding metal plate than can be loosened by 2 screws. Making the gap abit larger for the paper to go through into the fusing unit. Make it larger and then fix the screws again.

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We will try this,

But I don't see how that could prevent paper sticking to the pressure roller on the second pass

[SharpSwe]

Re: phoenix/griffin mfps mx-3050, 3070, 3550, 3570, 4050, 4070, 5050, 5070, 6050...

We will try this,

But I don't see how that could prevent paper sticking to the pressure roller on the second pass

I agree. I do however seen paper jam only caused during duplex with very weird results. This is one that helped.

And what previous users have said. The fusing units on these models could be better.

If you can, maybe switch out a fusing unit from a working machine just to rule it out.

[SharpSwe]

Re: phoenix/griffin mfps mx-3050, 3070, 3550, 3570, 4050, 4070, 5050, 5070, 6050...

Need to ask also. What kind of prints is it that gets jammed?

Is it fully covered papers all the way to the edges?

And

By Wrap. do you mean a sudden stop or that the paper gets stuck on the roller and wraps AROUND the roller?

If it's the latter. We've had issues on some that we had to install a Cleaner Roller and a Seperation Unit cause of very covered prints causing the fuser to becoming sticky.

Parts:
⦁ CFRM-1766DS53 (Lower Separate Unit)
⦁ DUNT-9555DSZZ (Cl roller Unit)

Adding technical reports.

[mansart]

Re: phoenix/griffin mfps mx-3050, 3070, 3550, 3570, 4050, 4070, 5050, 5070, 6050...

Mmmm....can't find those bulletins on the U.S. side

[Sage632]

Re: phoenix/griffin mfps mx-3050, 3070, 3550, 3570, 4050, 4070, 5050, 5070, 6050...

Need to ask also. What kind of prints is it that gets jammed?

Is it fully covered papers all the way to the edges?

And

By Wrap. do you mean a sudden stop or that the paper gets stuck on the roller and wraps AROUND the roller?

If it's the latter. We've had issues on some that we had to install a Cleaner Roller and a Seperation Unit cause of very covered prints causing the fuser to becoming sticky.

Parts:
⦁ CFRM-1766DS53 (Lower Separate Unit)
⦁ DUNT-9555DSZZ (Cl roller Unit)

Adding technical reports.

The print wraps around the pressure roller on the second pass.


The it is usually a duplex flyer of some sort with heavy print. Not always full page. But will usually have some sort of heavy fill area on the page.

I think it is due to no cleaning web (or roller) and no stripper pawls on the lower roller.

It has nothing to do with the lead edge or the trailing edge. Once it starts wrapping, even cleaning pages will wrap (the lead and traing edges on those several inches)

[mansart]

Re: phoenix/griffin mfps mx-3050, 3070, 3550, 3570, 4050, 4070, 5050, 5070, 6050...

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the cleaning roller kit mentioned above by SharpSwe, seems to be available as a part for the Sharp USA market, just no tech info

[SharpSwe]

Re: phoenix/griffin mfps mx-3050, 3070, 3550, 3570, 4050, 4070, 5050, 5070, 6050...

Then I would check in with Sharp Tech Support there in US to see if possible to get a hold of a Cleaning kit. But I believe the damage has already been done on the pressure roller once it's started wrapping the paper.

[Sage632]

Re: phoenix/griffin mfps mx-3050, 3070, 3550, 3570, 4050, 4070, 5050, 5070, 6050...

Need to ask also. What kind of prints is it that gets jammed?

Is it fully covered papers all the way to the edges?

And

By Wrap. do you mean a sudden stop or that the paper gets stuck on the roller and wraps AROUND the roller?

If it's the latter. We've had issues on some that we had to install a Cleaner Roller and a Seperation Unit cause of very covered prints causing the fuser to becoming sticky.

Parts:
⦁ CFRM-1766DS53 (Lower Separate Unit)
⦁ DUNT-9555DSZZ (Cl roller Unit)

Adding technical reports.

My parts guy says he cant find CFRM-1766DS53

Also are there any other parts associated with the cl roller unit (ie. Motor, bearings, etc.)?