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  • Dynoguy
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2020
    • 7

    MX-C304W admin password reset not possible

    Hello,

    recently acquired a Sharp MX-C304W from an auction. Machine is in great condition and works just fine.
    The problem is that there is no one left to ask what the admin password is as the company is dissolved.

    I need to change the network settings as these are absolutely unsuitale for my network configuration.
    Tried the usual Sim 24-30, but the 30 is refused with the double beep, so i assume it's actually not there
    instead of simply hidden. Neither 30 nor 31 is listed in the 24 sub-menu.
    I also tried all the switches on the mainboard in different combinations, no luck, reset just won't work
    and none od the switch combination enables the desired sim mode.
    Service login works just fine with standard service password, but no way to change network settings
    there.

    I am not a Sharp Tech and my epertise lies more in the old and heavy stuff where toner came in bottles
    and service modes were enabled with jumper wires instead of punching magic numbers on touch screens.

    Tried to contact Sharp, but (politely speaking) they are not exactly helpful.

    Any help would be much appreciated.

    cheers, Mike
  • MHeon71
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    • Oct 2008
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    #2
    Re: MX-C304W admin password reset not possible

    You may be SOL and need to get a Sharp tech. I think they have to retrieve a code from within the copier, call Sharp and Sharp will generate a new code to allow you to change password.

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    • Dynoguy
      Junior Member
      • Aug 2020
      • 7

      #3
      Re: MX-C304W admin password reset not possible

      Originally posted by MHeon71
      You may be SOL and need to get a Sharp tech. I think they have to retrieve a code from within the copier, call Sharp and Sharp will generate a new code to allow you to change password.
      Thanks for your reply.

      There is in fact an 8 digit code you can read out, the irony is that i emailed this including purchase
      history and machine serial number to Sharp tech support, they just can't be bothered to help.
      This thing is just 13 months old, but it seems after sales does not really exist.

      I am pretty sure there is a workaround, also the machine has no security kit installed,
      I think it just needs the right person with the right knowledge.
      I already pulled the 24C256 EEPROM and replaced it by a blank, it powered up with a fault
      and when i put the original back it took a while to boot and then the screen looked somewhat
      different, so perhaps that's something to have a closer look at.

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      • romang
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        • Aug 2011
        • 71

        #4
        Re: MX-C304W admin password reset not possible

        Try doing 62-1 format all

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        • romang
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          • Aug 2011
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          #5
          Re: MX-C304W admin password reset not possible

          Or try 67-17

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          • Dynoguy
            Junior Member
            • Aug 2020
            • 7

            #6
            Re: MX-C304W admin password reset not possible

            Thanks for the replies, including the PM's

            With a bit of much appreciated help, i was able to figure out who sold the machine when new.
            Sent them an email and a day later they sent me the password, no hassle, no drame,
            no silly questions and it was completely free of charge.
            Splendid customer service from Active8 (UK company)

            It turned out that with this machine most likely the only way is requesting the unlocking
            key from Sharp, I considered formatting or hacking into the web IF as options.
            Another way might be downloading the security settings and manually edit them, but being
            somehow encrypyed, it would be a challenge, too. (service login was on default password)
            Someone from Germany PM'd me and said that Sharp is asking 500 Euros for the unlocking
            key, that's just insane.

            Thanks again, Mike

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            • tsbservice
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              • May 2007
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              #7
              Re: MX-C304W admin password reset not possible

              On KonMin and other brands you can reset admin pass in service mode. Sounds like Sharp is doing it wrong way, ie. if IT changed default Admin password and left company.
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              • Dynoguy
                Junior Member
                • Aug 2020
                • 7

                #8
                Re: MX-C304W admin password reset not possible

                Originally posted by tsbservice
                On KonMin and other brands you can reset admin pass in service mode. Sounds like Sharp is doing it wrong way, ie. if IT changed default Admin password and left company.
                Totally agree, someone must have lost the plot there, most systems i know got some sort of back door for
                the service guy. As said earlier, i was growing into the business with jumper wires and power on key sequences.

                It looks like the well known Sharp back door has been removed on most recent models.
                Now they can charge ridiculus money to unlock a machine which might be worth less than their fee,....

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                • romang
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                  • Aug 2011
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                  #9
                  Re: MX-C304W admin password reset not possible

                  Its not a Sharp thing its a California law which will affect all manufacturers. Read this Default Password and the 2020 California Password Law (SB-327) - At Your Service

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                  • Dynoguy
                    Junior Member
                    • Aug 2020
                    • 7

                    #10
                    Re: MX-C304W admin password reset not possible

                    Originally posted by romang
                    Its not a Sharp thing its a California law which will affect all manufacturers. Read this Default Password and the 2020 California Password Law (SB-327) - At Your Service
                    Well, that's for CA only, so i don't really care what their law is because i am in England.
                    As far as i know, alot of products must be modified to pass CA law, so why not just
                    having a dedicated CA firmware instead of pestering the rest of the world with this nonsense.

                    Essentially nothing wrong with the policy as such, but it should not end up in insane
                    fees (or other obstacles) for someone with a legitimate requirement for an unlock code.

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                    • romang
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                      • Aug 2011
                      • 71

                      #11
                      Re: MX-C304W admin password reset not possible

                      I think it did affect you, your machine didn't have a way to reset it correct? Anyways it hasnt been too bad for us. Sharp doesnt charge us but, we do charge customers if they have us go more than once to reset a password on the same machine.

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                      • Dynoguy
                        Junior Member
                        • Aug 2020
                        • 7

                        #12
                        Re: MX-C304W admin password reset not possible

                        You are right, but it's still only because of CA law, they just decided to apply it to the rest of the world
                        which most probably conflicts with the odd law somewhere else on the planet.
                        This is not just copiers, the drama gets bigger and bigger everywhere, cars, trucks, machinery, you name it.

                        I am a 60's kid and some of that recent nonsense just doesn't make sense to me, other than commercial
                        reasons, of course

                        At least they don't charge you, but i think there is another US law which prohibits such charges.

                        Am i right in the assumption that this is not a just-in-time service, so you have to visit the customer
                        twice to unlock his machine ?

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                        • romang
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                          • Aug 2011
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                          #13

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                          • jon jennings
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                            50+ Posts
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 51

                            #14
                            Re: MX-C304W admin password reset not possible

                            Originally posted by Dynoguy
                            Hello,

                            recently acquired a Sharp MX-C304W from an auction. Machine is in great condition and works just fine.
                            The problem is that there is no one left to ask what the admin password is as the company is dissolved.

                            I need to change the network settings as these are absolutely unsuitale for my network configuration.
                            Tried the usual Sim 24-30, but the 30 is refused with the double beep, so i assume it's actually not there
                            instead of simply hidden. Neither 30 nor 31 is listed in the 24 sub-menu.
                            I also tried all the switches on the mainboard in different combinations, no luck, reset just won't work
                            and none od the switch combination enables the desired sim mode.
                            Service login works just fine with standard service password, but no way to change network settings
                            there.

                            I am not a Sharp Tech and my epertise lies more in the old and heavy stuff where toner came in bottles
                            and service modes were enabled with jumper wires instead of punching magic numbers on touch screens.

                            Tried to contact Sharp, but (politely speaking) they are not exactly helpful.

                            Any help would be much appreciated.

                            cheers, Mike
                            " Go to another machine (MX 5141) model doesn't matter. Go to Storage backup. Choose User Register Information. Create backup. Go to the MX 5070, type IP address. Go to (IP address /service_login.HTML), Password is service. Go to device Cloning. Send the backup you made to the machine and the password will be reset. "

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                            • Momiowilove
                              Technician

                              50+ Posts
                              • Sep 2019
                              • 63

                              #15
                              Re: MX-C304W admin password reset not possible

                              First check your system board and set the dipswicth 2. Turn off the machine and turn on. You wull see the message reset administrator password and service password. Choose the reset administrator password and then turn off the machine and turn the dipswicth 2 to normal. And then if you open the machine. Log in the administrator and type the password admin. It will ipen the administrator password and you wullychoose if you like to enable or disable the administrator password.

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