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  • mrfuser
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    • May 2007
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    #1

    Mx-m3570 drawer 2 inop

  • mloudy
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    #2
    Re: Mx-m3570 drawer 2 inop

    Does it only say Open Tray 2 or is there more to the message like ..and add paper?

    What is the code that you cleared in in service mode?

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    • mrfuser
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      Re: Mx-m3570 drawer 2 inop

      Error f3-22

      cleared feed errors and frankly every error we could in service mode and rebooted after each.
      swapped parts with other drawers and they work fine. Still drawer two shows ready after you clear errors just empty of paper so when you choose it then it tells you to open it and when you go through open and close it goes into an error code. All the other 3 drawers work just fine.

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      • bilyahn
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        #4
        Re: Mx-m3570 drawer 2 inop

        I had something similar to this and fixed it by reseating the connector for the desk unit. Not sure but this connector is very finicky/tight and has to be done just right. Doesn't take much for it not to work properly.

        Good luck

        Bil

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        • spanky
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          #5
          Re: Mx-m3570 drawer 2 inop

          Does the tray lift when you close it?

          If it does then you have a paper empty sensor or an upper limit lift sensor issue.

          If not you could have an issue with the cabinet detecting the paper tray has been inserted.

          I agree the connectors for the paper cabinet can be inserted crooked and some of the connections may not make contact.

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          • mrfuser
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            Re: Mx-m3570 drawer 2 inop

            It does not lift. I unplugged and plugged All connectors with same result. Tried new tray, paper lift motor, paper detect assembly and only tray 2 is inop.

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            • spanky
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              #7
              Re: Mx-m3570 drawer 2 inop

              swap tray #2 with tray #3 and see if the problem moves with the paper tray.

              If it moves with the tray then the tray is the issue.

              If it does not move with the tray try replacing the paper size detect switches in the back of the desk, I believe that is what tells the copier the tray has been inserted.

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              • spanky
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                #8
                Re: Mx-m3570 drawer 2 inop

                There is a sensor on the back wall of the paper feed cabinet what tells the machine when the paper tray has been inserted properly.

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                • mrfuser
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                  Re: Mx-m3570 drawer 2 inop

                  Please read my original quote I did all that


                  QUOTE=spanky;2033033]swap tray #2 with tray #3 and see if the problem moves with the paper tray.

                  If it moves with the tray then the tray is the issue.

                  If it does not move with the tray try replacing the paper size detect switches in the back of the desk, I believe that is what tells the copier the tray has been inserted.[/QUOTE]

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                  • ZachHarbour
                    Technician
                    • Jun 2021
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                    #10
                    Re: Mx-m3570 drawer 2 inop

                    F3-22 is a Tray 1 code. Are you sure it's a Tray 2 issue? Like stated above, did you add paper? Reseating the connector is also definitely a good idea.
                    Zachary Harbour
                    Hogland Office Works
                    zach@hoglandcopiers.com

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                    • EasyRider
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                      #11
                      Re: Mx-m3570 drawer 2 inop

                      Read the DE25/DE26/DE27 service manual for whatever desk model you have. Electrical Section 5-5 shows different connectors for the different desk units. Look at D1LM on the desk pwb and check for 24vdc. If not present, check D2LM. If present (should be), change the desk pwb.
                      Good luck!

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                      • mrfuser
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                        #12
                        Re: Mx-m3570 drawer 2 inop

                        it is tray 1 on the paper desk which is really tray 2 overall

                        Originally posted by ZachHarbour
                        F3-22 is a Tray 1 code. Are you sure it's a Tray 2 issue? Like stated above, did you add paper? Reseating the connector is also definitely a good idea.

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                        • mansart
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                          #13
                          Re: Mx-m3570 drawer 2 inop

                          Use SIM 30-2, check op of C2LUD and C2PED
                          30-2.JPG

                          SIM 6-1, you can check tray 2 lift motor...

                          If all components check good, I would swap desk pwb, then PCU

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