Sharp MX-5071 authentication/user codes with the same #

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  • copiertec
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    Sharp MX-5071 authentication/user codes with the same #

    We are installing an MX-5071 with account codes for the users. When I tried to install a user that shares the same # as another user, it will not allow me to install the user because the machine says " number already in use" or something to that effect. Is there a way I can create a group for this issue so I can put multiple users under a 5 digit shared #? If so I am not sure how to set that up. Any ideas?
  • Hansen88
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    Re: Sharp MX-5071 authentication/user codes with the same #

    I dont know that you can do that. Why cant they just use the department name and those people share that code. Why do they need to share the same code?

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    • copiertec
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      Re: Sharp MX-5071 authentication/user codes with the same #

      Originally posted by Hansen88
      I dont know that you can do that. Why cant they just use the department name and those people share that code. Why do they need to share the same code?
      I don't know. We are going to look at their old 5141N and see how they have it set up. They gave us a list for programming the new machine, at our shop, and we ran into this issue.

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      • Hansen88
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        Re: Sharp MX-5071 authentication/user codes with the same #

        Check the old machine. Maybe their list has a misprint on it. Ask the customer if those tow people are supposed to have their own code.

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        • copiertec
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          Re: Sharp MX-5071 authentication/user codes with the same #

          Well, the client has multiple users on one code. If I put one person on the user list with the authentication #, I would just enter the other user in the address book and they will authenticate with the persons # in the user list. I did not ask questions, I did not offer to change it, less is best sometimes.
          All cases I have authenticated with a user #, each client had their own #, so this was a new one to me. Machine was installed and all is working good.

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          • PacMusee
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            Re: Sharp MX-5071 authentication/user codes with the same #

            Were the accounts created manually on the new unit, or did you load the imported file from the previous model? I don't know if it's the same file type.

            I would also suggest the client to change the name of the account if the # is to be shared between employees (like "Jack & Jeff", or "Shipping"). That's what I do with the MX-5070, which seems pretty much the same as to the UI. There's usually no way 2 different accounts can share the same # nowadays, as the system will reject the second one while you try to create it.

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            • copiertec
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              Re: Sharp MX-5071 authentication/user codes with the same #

              First, I tried to clone the address book and account codes, the prior model to the 5071 was a 5141N, it would not transfer all the account codes, as some of the codes would come up as invalid codes. So, the team and I added them manually, it took about a half hour, and the problem we ran into was that it would not allow us to add duplicate user #'s for different individuals. So, we just added one # in the account codes, but added users that can use that # in the address book. The client seems happy with that solution so far, but time will tell. I am not sure of the dynamics yet, but believe the individuals that share the same code are working as a team and thought about renaming the individual # to a team # if problems arise in the future, possibly.

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              • PacMusee
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                Re: Sharp MX-5071 authentication/user codes with the same #

                So the inner system between the 2 machines are definitely not the same: the imported file type is compatible (which is lucky!), but its content is not treated the same way, as the 5071 sees the doubled # and doesn't like it. Good to know, but not very helpful for your problem, unfortunately.

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                • copiertec
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                  Re: Sharp MX-5071 authentication/user codes with the same #

                  Originally posted by PacMusee
                  So the inner system between the 2 machines are definitely not the same: the imported file type is compatible (which is lucky!), but its content is not treated the same way, as the 5071 sees the doubled # and doesn't like it. Good to know, but not very helpful for your problem, unfortunately.
                  Client seems okay with it. It would be nice if Sharp would add a prompt with a choice to allow the use of the same # in the user code index, but not a big deal.

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