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  • dmary
    Technician
    • Jun 2017
    • 20

    #1

    [CQ] MX-7580 : a pale area in the middle of the sheet in 1/2 yellow shade: SHARP MX-7580.

    SHARP MX-7580.
    I'm French and this post is translate by Google Traduction.






    The simple tip: a pale area in the middle of the sheet in 1/2 yellow shade:
    SHARP MX-7580.


    Hello, the machine in the photo can be scary, if we remove the stores on the right, we are exactly in my configuration.


    The simple tip: a pale area in the middle of the sheet in 1/2 yellow shade:
    Scan demi teinte jaune.jpg
    Yellow test in 1/2 shade in simulation 64-1 (17)
    Disregarding fingerprints from the glass when I scanned the yellow test. This is the pale area that I am looking to resolve.
    On solid colors at 100%, we do not see the pale zone.


    If I stop the machine on the way, I find this pale area developed in yellow on the surface of the drum.
    My work done for this failure:
    • Complete maintenance
    • Change of the laser block (mirrors and polygonal mirror cleaned)
    • Yellow developer block replacement (new)
    • Replacement of primary transfer (yellow transfer roller pressure looks good on transfer cloth and old transfer works well on another machine)
    • Inversion of Yellow and Magenta drum blocks for test
    • Swapping the Yellow and Cyan Drum Drives
    • Reset of laser values ​​in sim 61-13 and test settings in auto or manual in sims 61-11 and 61-12.
    • Swapped the Drum/Dev Block support rails between cyan and yellow (no laser shutter on this machine).
    • One could think of a bad carpet on the magnetic brush of the developer block or of stray light. I looked at the open door, I see nothing.
    • The developer block was successfully replaced with the same issue at the end.



    An idea?
    French technician since 1994. Thanks to Google Translator for helping me to make myself understood by you.
  • ricohrice
    Technician
    • Dec 2008
    • 38

    #2
    Re: MX-7580 : a pale area in the middle of the sheet in 1/2 yellow shade: SHARP MX-75

    Replace your LSU

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    • dmary
      Technician
      • Jun 2017
      • 20

      #3
      Re: MX-7580 : a pale area in the middle of the sheet in 1/2 yellow shade: SHARP MX-75

      Originally posted by ricohrice
      Replace your LSU
      I have already replaced the LSU. I wrote it above (Laser Block).


      On the other hand, I did not indicate that the MFP was against a large one in front of a large window.This afternoon, I moved the machine against a wall.I redid a 44-2, 44-6, 44-26 and 46-74.Then I put the MX-7580 back in its place.The quality seems to be back. I'm waiting for the beginning of next week to check. However, I had already made tests by hiding the possible external lights. But without making CQ settings.


      I'll keep you informed.


      ​I realize this is my first post here?I am a French technician with more than 25 years of experience on various brands.
      I have also been the webmaster of a site for French-speaking technicians since 2000.

      French technician since 1994. Thanks to Google Translator for helping me to make myself understood by you.

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      • sharphead
        Trusted Tech

        250+ Posts
        • Aug 2009
        • 285

        #4
        Re: MX-7580 : a pale area in the middle of the sheet in 1/2 yellow shade: SHARP MX-75

        A better translation than block would be unit.

        I also wasn't sure if you had replaced it, or opened and cleaned it.

        These units need alot of electrical current. Would the move have it using a different wall socket?

        It's a strange one, hope you get it sorted.

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        • dmary
          Technician
          • Jun 2017
          • 20

          #5
          Re: MX-7580 : a pale area in the middle of the sheet in 1/2 yellow shade: SHARP MX-75

          Originally posted by sharphead
          A better translation than block would be unit.

          I also wasn't sure if you had replaced it, or opened and cleaned it.

          These units need alot of electrical current. Would the move have it using a different wall socket?

          It's a strange one, hope you get it sorted.
          Hello,
          Thank you for the answer.
          the MFP is therefore moved against a wall in the same room.
          The pale area is still there, but less strong.
          I think I must have a stray light in the machine, or a missing casing that allows outside light to come onto the yellow drum.
          I will search again.
          It's a Copier'Sharp that I have in maintenance for a short time without having the history.
          French technician since 1994. Thanks to Google Translator for helping me to make myself understood by you.

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          • sharphead
            Trusted Tech

            250+ Posts
            • Aug 2009
            • 285

            #6
            Re: MX-7580 : a pale area in the middle of the sheet in 1/2 yellow shade: SHARP MX-75

            Are your developer bias, transfer and main charge voltages good? I wonder could the yellow transfer be getting a bad signal

            Is it plugged into a different electrical socket now?

            Are the discharge lamps working correctly.

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            • dmary
              Technician
              • Jun 2017
              • 20

              #7
              Re: MX-7580 : a pale area in the middle of the sheet in 1/2 yellow shade: SHARP MX-75

              Originally posted by sharphead
              Are your developer bias, transfer and main charge voltages good? I wonder could the yellow transfer be getting a bad signal

              Is it plugged into a different electrical socket now?

              Are the discharge lamps working correctly.
              Hello,
              Thank you for the answer, I feel less alone and sorry for this translation. I read Shapkespeare's language well, but I write it less.


              I reversed the connectors coming out of the MC PWB between yellow and magenta.
              For this test, I did not see any difference between before and after.
              I haven't changed the MC PWB (Generates the main charger voltage and the DV bias voltage) yet.


              I plugged all three power cords into another outlet.


              And finally, when I operate the machine with the door open, I can clearly see the neutralization lamps working correctly.
              As a reminder, I have already reversed the drum blocks between cyan and yellow and the yellow color is still pale.


              When I stop the machine while it is printing, I can clearly see the faint area on the drum surface.


              Normally I have support from Sharp. Right now I don't have an answer.

              Since the machine is moved the quality is better. For me, it's always a pale yellow.
              French technician since 1994. Thanks to Google Translator for helping me to make myself understood by you.

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              • sharphead
                Trusted Tech

                250+ Posts
                • Aug 2009
                • 285

                #8
                Re: MX-7580 : a pale area in the middle of the sheet in 1/2 yellow shade: SHARP MX-75

                Did you ever get any further with this one?

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                • dmary
                  Technician
                  • Jun 2017
                  • 20

                  #9
                  Re: MX-7580 : a pale area in the middle of the sheet in 1/2 yellow shade: SHARP MX-75

                  Originally posted by sharphead
                  Did you ever get any further with this one?
                  Hello,
                  I still have the same blade area problem. We manage to have a good quality overall.
                  But the problem sometimes comes back unexplained.


                  I am awaiting a response from Sharp France. It's very long right now. I'll let you know as soon as I have any news.
                  I have to be very patient to get this response from Sharp.
                  French technician since 1994. Thanks to Google Translator for helping me to make myself understood by you.

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                  • sharphead
                    Trusted Tech

                    250+ Posts
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 285

                    #10
                    Re: MX-7580 : a pale area in the middle of the sheet in 1/2 yellow shade: SHARP MX-75

                    Thanks just curious

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                    • equipment4office
                      Junior Member

                      Site Contributor
                      • Dec 2022
                      • 7

                      #11
                      Re: MX-7580 : a pale area in the middle of the sheet in 1/2 yellow shade: SHARP MX-75

                      Have you tried copying on the other side of same sheet immediately after the first pass?
                      I never let people convince me on what I can't do ... It's those convictions that strenghten the resolve to do what they deem impossible! ps. I perform miracles too, but with a short waiting time....

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                      • dmary
                        Technician
                        • Jun 2017
                        • 20

                        #12
                        Re: MX-7580 : a pale area in the middle of the sheet in 1/2 yellow shade: SHARP MX-75

                        Originally posted by equipment4office
                        Have you tried copying on the other side of same sheet immediately after the first pass?
                        Good evening,
                        It's a good idea. No, I didn't, I don't think about the quality of the paper because I don't have any problems with other colors.
                        Just yellow.


                        I think I'll close this topic next week, we found another less glorious solution...
                        Replace this MX-7580 with another machine.
                        French technician since 1994. Thanks to Google Translator for helping me to make myself understood by you.

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                        • dmary
                          Technician
                          • Jun 2017
                          • 20

                          #13
                          Re: MX-7580 : a pale area in the middle of the sheet in 1/2 yellow shade: SHARP MX-75

                          Originally posted by dmary
                          Good evening,
                          It's a good idea. No, I didn't, I don't think about the quality of the paper because I don't have any problems with other colors.
                          Just yellow.


                          I think I'll close this topic next week, we found another less glorious solution...
                          Replace this MX-7580 with another machine.
                          Finally, we are replacing the MX-7580 with an MX-6580. It's slower... Anyway, the MX-FN22 Finisher slows down the machine. And this MX-6580 has less than 500k.


                          This is not a good technical solution, sorry.
                          On the other hand, it is an answer for users who wanted good quality.
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                          French technician since 1994. Thanks to Google Translator for helping me to make myself understood by you.

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