Cloning the SSD on BP's

[Squiggy]

We've been cloning the HDD's from the MX 3050 & 3051 Series for awhile now. But we can't find a device to clone the SSD's.
Anyone Cloned the SSD from the BP series? If so what do you use as a cloner?

[slimslob]

Re: Cloning the SSD on BP's

Considering that an SSD is basically huge SD Card or USB thumb drive, I would say whatever would work with one of them. You might want to look into MiniTool Partition Wizard.

[ihatefinishers13]

Re: Cloning the SSD on BP's

We've been cloning the HDD's from the MX 3050 & 3051 Series for awhile now. But we can't find a device to clone the SSD's.
Anyone Cloned the SSD from the BP series? If so what do you use as a cloner?

Do you mean the device to plug it in to? If so, you'd need an M.2 drive cloning device. As far as software, we use HDDRawCopy, which works well. Haven't done the BP SSD's though yet. We need to get a device to clone em. The tricky part is those machines already have issues being cloned with settings, so firmware will be the FIRST thing you must do when you put it in.

[don_925]

Re: Cloning the SSD on BP's

Do you mean the device to plug it in to? If so, you'd need an M.2 drive cloning device. As far as software, we use HDDRawCopy, which works well. Haven't done the BP SSD's though yet. We need to get a device to clone em. The tricky part is those machines already have issues being cloned with settings, so firmware will be the FIRST thing you must do when you put it in.

Are you trying to clone a BP series machine? I have cloned BP series machine using a usb stick and under settings, copy storage backup and device cloning information.
is this what you are trying to do.

[ihatefinishers13]

Re: Cloning the SSD on BP's

Are you trying to clone a BP series machine? I have cloned BP series machine using a usb stick and under settings, copy storage backup and device cloning information.
is this what you are trying to do.

Right idea, but they mean being able to fully clone the SSD, so if it fails, they can just throw the clone on to a regular SSD of the same or greater speed and capacity, and save a ton of money by not buying Sharp's overpriced part. Same goes with HDDs on old machine.

[bigdaddyooo]

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Steve our rep advised us to NOT clone machines any longer. They are seeing a lot of problems with lock up, slow networking etc... if you saw the webinar last week he took a lot of time on this bullet point. Japan has said it's the cloning that is causing all the strange issues with SSD, HDD and eeproms. The only time it can be done is with the EXACT same model machine with the same firmware. Check with your rep on this issue.
Sim 56-9 will get your address book from other models
OBTW, Sharp does have an address book tool in the software section of Sharp-INDC

[Hart]

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Why would you need to clone the HDD or SSD ?

I had to replace a lot of HDD on the CR4.5 serie (E7-93 error) and you just need to replace the HDD, the boot will be longer (3 minutes) but everything is back (except the home background).

From the service manual :
HDD/SSD
Stores the filing data, the log data and authentication data also used as a work memory

eMMC PWB
Stores the SOC program data, snapshot, the e-manual data, the watermark data, the log data

It was different on the previous generation 2640N with the SD card failing.

[ihatefinishers13]

Re: Cloning the SSD on BP's

Why would you need to clone the HDD or SSD ?

I had to replace a lot of HDD on the CR4.5 serie (E7-93 error) and you just need to replace the HDD, the boot will be longer (3 minutes) but everything is back (except the home background).

From the service manual :
HDD/SSD
Stores the filing data, the log data and authentication data also used as a work memory

eMMC PWB
Stores the SOC program data, snapshot, the e-manual data, the watermark data, the log data

It was different on the previous generation 2640N with the SD card failing.

Because you pay 5x the cost when purchasing the drive through the manufacturer.

[Hart]

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Because you pay 5x the cost when purchasing the drive through the manufacturer.

The HDD is empty, the copier will format it.
You can put any HDD from the market (a WD Blue for example last month) and it will work.

[Hart]

Gonna bump this thread.
We've started replacing the HDD with SSD, it's fantastic !
You need at least 500 GB
I first tried with a BX500 240 GB, the copier will boot and throw errors, and I've read after that the BX500 is now QLC instead of TLC, so a bad idea for a copier.
We have WD Blue 500 GB and Kingston KC600 512 GB (I wasn't sure that 500 GB would be enough), I can't find a DRAMLESS TLC much cheaper that theses two for the moment.

56-02 to EXPORT the EEPROM and STORAGE, 56-03 if they have folder and docs on the HDD, replace the HDD with the SSD, boot up, wait less than a minute for the format (instead of the 2 to 4 minutes for the HDD), IMPORT in 56-02 and 56-03 if needed, and voila !
Everything is smooth and fast, no more lag on the screen etc.

[ihatefinishers13]

Gonna bump this thread.
We've started replacing the HDD with SSD, it's fantastic !
You need at least 500 GB
I first tried with a BX500 240 GB, the copier will boot and throw errors, and I've read after that the BX500 is now QLC instead of TLC, so a bad idea for a copier.
We have WD Blue 500 GB and Kingston KC600 512 GB (I wasn't sure that 500 GB would be enough), I can't find a DRAMLESS TLC much cheaper that theses two for the moment.

The savings alone are worth the potential that the drive may not be good(just had one yesterday). The BP's are much trickier because NOW, the EEProm(soldered on now) writes to the SSD as a backup(the ONLY backup). So, if...somehow...a tech scratches the MFP board while adding a fax kit...barely nick's the SSD, and you try to see if the SSD works in a different machine, which 10 copies later overwrites the SSD... you just bricked your machine because it can't be recovered. So, NEVER EVER REPLACE THE EEPROM AND SSD AT THE SAME TIME. Separately in the same day, sure, but if you replace them together you're going to have big adult problems.

[Hart]

I have this procedure in the EU Handy Guide
I'm pretty sure that the EEPROM always write on the HDD / SSD for all Sharp no ? 56-01 is to force it.

[ihatefinishers13]

I have this procedure in the EU Handy Guide
I'm pretty sure that the EEPROM always write on the HDD / SSD for all Sharp no ? 56-01 is to force it.

Oh of course, yes, but now you can't get the EEPROM off the board, so if the situation arises like we experienced, you're doomed.

[slimslob]

Oh of course, yes, but now you can't get the EEPROM off the board, so if the situation arises like we experienced, you're doomed.

So where is the problem? If you have made a backup of the EEPROM to the HDD/SSD, replace the board the EEPROM in on. You can then send the board to a qualified repair facility after which you will have a spare for the next time.

[ihatefinishers13]

So where is the problem? If you have made a backup of the EEPROM to the HDD/SSD, replace the board the EEPROM in on. You can then send the board to a qualified repair facility after which you will have a spare for the next time.

If you read one of my previous posts, you'll understand... We essentially wiped the SSD by just innocently checking to see if it was still good.