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  • jpcopy
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    sharp arm 455/ mxm450 questions

    I got the service and parts manuals but haven't dove into looking up yet. been selling the imagistics 4511 (arm 455) and starting to get imagistics 4512 (mxm 450) in. which parts will interchange. fuser, drum units, developer unit, lower feed units, turnover units, fax units and any other parts that might interchange. any responce appreciated
  • CBMWilson
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    Re: sharp arm 455/ mxm450 questions

    I've only experience with the 4511/arm455 and the only thing we've found that wasn't compatible was the toner cartridge.

    We haven't seen the 4512's yet but i'd suspect the same from them.

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    • bilyahn
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      Re: sharp arm 455/ mxm450 questions

      Originally posted by jpcopy
      I got the service and parts manuals but haven't dove into looking up yet. been selling the imagistics 4511 (arm 455) and starting to get imagistics 4512 (mxm 450) in. which parts will interchange. fuser, drum units, developer unit, lower feed units, turnover units, fax units and any other parts that might interchange. any responce appreciated
      We have both ARM455 and MXM450 and all supplies for the Sharp version are interchangeble. The only difference between these models is the print controller and the LCD display. The developer unit has an addition screw to prevent customers from dumping the developer out of machine (haven't had to swap one between machines yet) but the DV material is the same AR455ND.

      Good luck.

      Bil

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      • jpcopy
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        Re: sharp arm 455/ mxm450 questions

        thanks for responce but what I 'm looking for is the cross over of parts from the 455 and mxm450. the turnover unit on a sharp arm450 and the 455 will not interchange unless you change wireing harness. the fax will not exchange arm450/455. of course non of the boards but have not tried power supply. laser will exchange arm450/455. toners won't swap but will on the 4510/4511/4512. anyone have a good compatible upper and lower fuser roller supplier. not katun or NA trading.

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        • Dark Helmet
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          Re: sharp arm 455/ mxm450 questions

          Originally posted by jpcopy
          thanks for responce but what I 'm looking for is the cross over of parts from the 455 and mxm450. the turnover unit on a sharp arm450 and the 455 will not interchange unless you change wireing harness. the fax will not exchange arm450/455. of course non of the boards but have not tried power supply. laser will exchange arm450/455. toners won't swap but will on the 4510/4511/4512. anyone have a good compatible upper and lower fuser roller supplier. not katun or NA trading.
          I think the turnover unit on a ARM450 vs a ARM455 is fairly differnt as the ventilation goes to the rear and front of the ARM455 instead of out the side on the ARM450

          ARM455 to MXM450
          All the supplies and rollers are the same. I also interchange the reg assemblys. As above the DV unit is differnt with the screw to lock it in the machine, no idea if the wiring/tcs sensor is differnt.
          Evil will always triumph because good is dumb.

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          • jpcopy
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            Re: sharp arm 455/ mxm450 questions

            your are right Lawrence about the turnover unit. it will fit but you would need a 455 cover, but the wireing is different so no point trying. we have put 450 developer units in the 455 (4511) and they work fine. new developer unit for arm 450 about half the cost of 455. fuser apprear the same. drum units in the arm 450 will swap with the 455 an vice versa. appears no problem

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            • jpcopy
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              Re: sharp arm 455/ mxm450 questions

              also want to know if you can remove hard drive and still have machine work. I would like to do this because I buy what I can get and most machines are going into places where they are not connected and I'm just trying to elimate as many problem as possible

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              • bilyahn
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                Re: sharp arm 455/ mxm450 questions

                Originally posted by jpcopy
                also want to know if you can remove hard drive and still have machine work. I would like to do this because I buy what I can get and most machines are going into places where they are not connected and I'm just trying to elimate as many problem as possible
                If you have an "N" version then the answer is no. If you have a "U" version it does not have a hard drive.

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                • jpcopy
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                  Re: sharp arm 455/ mxm450 questions

                  well, these are not the sharp machines. their imagistics. the im4510 (arm450) every machine we got in you could change print controler boards and add or remove HD and other things but the 4511 and 4512 (sharp arm455 and mxm 450) are coming in different. tried a 4511(arm455) print control board with out print and scan in a 4512(mxm450) that had print and scan. machine came to ready but display was screw up. look like some asian symbles and reverse print. also looks like the reversing unit won't interchange between the 4511(arm455) and the 4512(mxm450) as I tried a 4511 in a 4512 and got jam at exit. also does all the mxm450 series have rattleing reversing units? as said just starting to get in to 4512 (mxm450)series and all have a rattle on start up. one machine only had 80k and the others were less than 300k but all rattle. any fixes other than replace reversing unit

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                  • lky1978
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                    Re: sharp arm 455/ mxm450 questions

                    for dv unit,ar-m455 = mx-m450
                    for dv unit, arm450=im4511=im4512
                    ar-m455 and mx-m450 same fusing unit
                    ar-m450 im4510 im4511 im4512 same fusing unit
                    ar-m455 printer board with usb connector
                    im4511 printer board without usb connector
                    im4511 can make it become sharp ar-m455, just flash boot rom,scn rom, main rom, pcu rom and change dv unit(or swap pin position of the dv connector).

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                    • jpcopy
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                      Re: sharp arm 455/ mxm450 questions

                      Thanks lky1978
                      good points

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                      • Dark Helmet
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                        Re: sharp arm 455/ mxm450 questions

                        You can't use a ARM450 fuser unit in a ARM455/MXM450. I tried it once and the machine just kept saying install the fuser. The rebuild kits work fine in either machine though.

                        I didn't know you could put a ARM450 DV unit in a MXM series, ill have to try it next time. They are retarded cheap compared to the others. Thx.
                        Evil will always triumph because good is dumb.

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                        • bilyahn
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                          Re: sharp arm 455/ mxm450 questions

                          Originally posted by Lawrence
                          You can't use a ARM450 fuser unit in a ARM455/MXM450. I tried it once and the machine just kept saying install the fuser. The rebuild kits work fine in either machine though.
                          The fuser units themselves are nearly identical. The only difference is with the thermistors. If you swap the thermsitors out (from the 455 or vice versa) and plug them into the other connection on the underside of the large coupler (the connectors on the thermistors are different sizes) then the unit will recognize the fuser. I've done this with serveral ARM450 fusers so I could use them in the newer models.

                          Bil

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                          • jpcopy
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                            Re: sharp arm 455/ mxm450 questions

                            4510 (ARM 450) FUSER fits 4511 (455) and 4512 ( mxm 450) beats all, don't it

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                            • jpcopy
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                              Re: sharp arm 455/ mxm450 questions

                              by the way where you guys buying your upper and lower fuser rollers from? for the 450/455/mxm450. Oem are good but need to save a little money. I buy oem for drums, maintence kits, developer and toner. have not found any thing else that will work.

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