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  • bdcrandall13
    Trusted Tech

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    • Sep 2010
    • 236

    #1

    ARM207 Noise

    I have a continuous problem with an ARM207. Machine is 4 years old and for the last year or so has intermittently been making a "rubbing" sound before and after copies are made. It is a very quick but noticeable noise that does not seem to affect copy quality. I have changed the drum, process unit, DV box, fuser and cleaning blade multiple times. To me it sounds like the drum rubbing on the cleaning blade. Does the motor rotate backwards slightly when copying is completed? I also saw a post somewhere that it could be caused by the felt pads on the drum unit. I also had a thought that it could be something in the paper feed section. Machine only has 100k copies on it but is a fairly dirty, (dust,) environment.
    Thanks in advance.
  • blackcat4866
    Master Of The Obvious

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    • Jul 2007
    • 22996

    #2
    Re: ARM207 Noise

    Here's the only database entry I've got on noises for Pegasus:

    Buzzing noise when copying or printing from tray #1 on AR-M205. Vibration from the lower vertical feed clutch. Clean and re-grease the lower vertical feed clutch.

    Most everything is driven by the main motor on the Pegasus. And it does not reverse to clean the drum blade. And the cleaning blade tension is on all the time, it doesn't tap.
    =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    • bdcrandall13
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      #3
      Re: ARM207 Noise

      The sound it is making sounds like it could possibly be coming from somewhere in the paper feed section. I will do some checking in that area next time I am out there.

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      • bilyahn
        Service Manager

        1,000+ Posts
        • Dec 2006
        • 1470

        #4
        Re: ARM207 Noise

        I have found this noise to be either the drum unit (take a test unit to check) or the fuser, most times the drum. It is hard to locate since it almost impossible to watch the machine in operation. When you rebuild the drum unit do you replaced the side seals?

        Good luck.

        Bil

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        • bdcrandall13
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          • Sep 2010
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          #5
          Re: ARM207 Noise

          Originally posted by bilyahn
          I have found this noise to be either the drum unit (take a test unit to check) or the fuser, most times the drum. It is hard to locate since it almost impossible to watch the machine in operation. When you rebuild the drum unit do you replaced the side seals?

          Good luck.

          Bil
          I have replaced the entire Process unit with a used one and a new one and the noise comes back. This last time it seemed to work for a longer period of time before returning.

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          • JustManuals
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            • Jan 2006
            • 9838

            #6
            Re: ARM207 Noise

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            • blackcat4866
              Master Of The Obvious

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              • Jul 2007
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              #7
              Re: ARM207 Noise

              It's not real common on this model, but perhaps you're getting cleaning blade vibration. The test is to prime the blade with dusting powder, then test.

              In situations where the customer does a lot of very low fill copies, the drum blade can become starved for toner to lubricate it. =^..^=
              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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              • vlad_robas
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                100+ Posts
                • Oct 2006
                • 225

                #8
                Re: ARM207 Noise

                If u are sure that the noise isn't comming from exit areea, in wich case u have a lot of H5, then u should pull out the registration rollers(4) which are mounted on an shaft which has bushes where the dirt is accumulating. Next is the cleaning felt from the fuser wich is ''moving'' if the copies are made in small numbers/job.
                And u should check the shaft in wich is the drum inserted when u put the drum unit back into is place.

                If u remouve the back then u can press the swich and see the machine in action.

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                • DINGO
                  Senior Tech

                  500+ Posts
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 661

                  #9
                  Re: ARM207 Noise

                  and, do you check the clutch from the ps roller?

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                  • blackcat4866
                    Master Of The Obvious

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                    • Jul 2007
                    • 22996

                    #10
                    Re: ARM207 Noise

                    Originally posted by vlad_robas
                    ... Next is the cleaning felt from the fuser ...
                    Thanks vlad, I had completely forgotten about this. The cleaning felt will build up with toner over time. When enough toner has collected the toner on the felt will become sticky, and make a rubbing noise. You can replace the felt or scrape it with your pocket knife, then add about a dozen drops of fuser oil to help it stay clean longer. You'll know if you put on too much fuser oil. The paper will jam in the fuser until enough of the fuser oil has evaporated off or transferred to the paper. =^..^=
                    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                    • bdcrandall13
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                      • Sep 2010
                      • 236

                      #11
                      Re: ARM207 Noise

                      Originally posted by blackcat4866
                      Thanks vlad, I had completely forgotten about this. The cleaning felt will build up with toner over time. When enough toner has collected the toner on the felt will become sticky, and make a rubbing noise. You can replace the felt or scrape it with your pocket knife, then add about a dozen drops of fuser oil to help it stay clean longer. You'll know if you put on too much fuser oil. The paper will jam in the fuser until enough of the fuser oil has evaporated off or transferred to the paper. =^..^=
                      Ok this makes sense. I changed the fuser about 6 months ago and the noise seemed to get better. There have been so many changes that it is hard to point a finger at the cause. I will check out the felt pad and report the results.

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                      • neilobusk
                        Technician
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 16

                        #12
                        Re: ARM207 Noise

                        Originally posted by bdcrandall13
                        Ok this makes sense. I changed the fuser about 6 months ago and the noise seemed to get better. There have been so many changes that it is hard to point a finger at the cause. I will check out the felt pad and report the results.
                        Ps clutch springs wear and these do go noisey new spring and a little grease

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                        • Discountcopiers
                          Technician
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 52

                          #13
                          Re: ARM207 Noise

                          if i remember correctly, there is a plastic cover below the drum that is held on by one or two screws. I had these come loose one day on a machine i worked on and got the same result .

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                          • DINGO
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                            500+ Posts
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 661

                            #14
                            Re: ARM207 Noise

                            well, and about the clutchs from the trays? and try take out the bypass unit??
                            good luck

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                            • BMSInc95
                              Technician

                              50+ Posts
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 66

                              #15
                              Re: ARM207 Noise

                              sounds like its the drum. you are hearing the blade squeak when it starts up and when it stops. Never had a problem with it, its just the rubber on the drum. if the customer has a problem with it adding more powder may get ride of it. good luck.

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