MX-M623 - 753 high volume?

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  • gbfan
    Technician
    • Aug 2010
    • 19

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    [Misc] MX-M623 - 753 high volume?

    Our sales department is working on a bid right now for a customer that runs 100k-120k copies a month on multiple (3-4) machines. They are thinking about putting in the MX-M753's. I was wondering if anyone has this kind of volume running on these type of machines. They are thinking we would have a better chance at getting in, than pricing out multiple Hercules. We have around 30 623's out in the feild right now, but none at that volume and they run great. As a service tech I wonder if they can can handle of volume day in and day out.

    Any thoughts on this?
    Last edited by gbfan; 02-21-2013, 08:39 PM.
  • Akitu
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    • Oct 2010
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    Re: MX-M623 - 753 high volume?

    Originally posted by gbfan
    Our sales department is working on a bid right now for a customer that runs 100m-120m copies a month on multiple (3-4) machines. They are thinking about putting in the MX-M753's. I was wondering if anyone has this kind of volume running on these type of machines. They are thinking we would have a better chance at getting in, than pricing out multiple Hercules. We have around 30 623's out in the feild right now, but none at that volume and they run great. As a service tech I wonder if they can can handle of volume day in and day out.

    Any thoughts on this?
    Unless I read that incorrectly, you're asking if a 623 or 753 would be able to handle several million copies per month?
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    • gbfan
      Technician
      • Aug 2010
      • 19

      #3
      Re: MX-M623 - 753 high volume?

      Originally posted by Akitu
      Unless I read that incorrectly, you're asking if a 623 or 753 would be able to handle several million copies per month?
      I changed my post- it was to be k =1000 ---> nothing is idiot proof when dealing with one... thats me

      any thoughts now?

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      • Akitu
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        Re: MX-M623 - 753 high volume?

        Originally posted by gbfan
        I changed my post- it was to be k =1000 ---> nothing is idiot proof when dealing with one... thats me

        any thoughts now?
        120k is a pittance to these behemoths. They'll do 250-300k per month depending which one it is.
        My local highschool has 2 of them and they do roughly half to two thirds of that volume per month give or take 50k, depending on what's going on at the school at the time.
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        • gbfan
          Technician
          • Aug 2010
          • 19

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          Re: MX-M623 - 753 high volume?

          Originally posted by ;343348
          120k is a pittance to these behemoths. They'll do 250-300k per month depending which one it is.
          My local highschool has 2 of them and they do roughly half to two thirds of that volume per month give or take 50k, depending on what's going on at the school at the time.
          I guess my main concern is the drum is good for 300k and feed tires are good for 100k per the manual. As anyone with a few years exp. knows those can very. Will we be there once or twice a month on a machine running over 100k and if the mutiple machine cycles dont line up we could be there alot. . A Hercules drum is 1m. Customer perception is key.

          How are yours holding up?

          Thanks Akitu for your time.

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          • Akitu
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            Re: MX-M623 - 753 high volume?

            Originally posted by gbfan
            I guess my main concern is the drum is good for 300k and feed tires are good for 100k per the manual. As anyone with a few years exp. knows those can very. Will we be there once or twice a month on a machine running over 100k and if the mutiple machine cycles dont line up we could be there alot. . A Hercules drum is 1m. Customer perception is key.

            How are yours holding up?

            Thanks Akitu for your time.
            My feed tires have lasted over 400k presently without being changed. Just routine cleaning the odd time they've had an issue. My drums have gone over 20% past their expected life with the present volume and still have the same CQ as they did on day 1, just did the maintenance on the one with heavier volume in the staff lounge. Overall fantastic machine, same engine as the ARM/MXM 550/620/700 series, tried, tested and true.

            I don't have any hercs in my service area, so I can't comment on their performance, but I would think with that monthly volume a herc would be bordering on overkill. If your customers are running the crap out of one machine and ignoring the other one, you can consider it a reliable parts machine on site.

            My only problem with the 753 was my first one arrived with a short in the 24V line, as did someone else who recently posted in the Sharp forum here, leave them powered on for at least 24 hours prior to delivering to customer location.
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            • gbfan
              Technician
              • Aug 2010
              • 19

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              Re: MX-M623 - 753 high volume?

              Originally posted by Akitu
              My only problem with the 753 was my first one arrived with a short in the 24V line, as did someone else who recently posted in the Sharp forum here, leave them powered on for at least 24 hours prior to delivering to customer location.
              We have one we are setting up now- I just turned it on for the night. Deliverying it next week.
              Thanks for the heads up and your input. It is greatly appreciated..

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              • DavePo
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                Re: MX-M623 - 753 high volume?

                We have several schools doing 150-300k per month on both 623 and 753's. One has almost 4million on it and is 2years of service. Very little problems. Have had drum go for almost 700k because customer didn't call for maint for 400k. Good machines.

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                • mojorolla
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                  • Jan 2010
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                  Re: MX-M623 - 753 high volume?

                  These things are tanks and use the oldest, most reliable Sharp engine ever built. Sadly, they are redesigning it this year.
                  If you rebuild the fusers, which is cake on this model, make sure you replace the roller bearings, especially the lower ones.
                  The only bad thing I can say about these is replaced the 6 upper separators on the heat roll. Those tiny e clips are a pain!


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                  • Luthier

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                    Re: MX-M623 - 753 high volume?

                    One of the accounts in my area is a school district with 70 of the MX-M700N's. One room has 4 of these and there are almost 10 million copies between them. All still trucking away. Have a couple with over 4 million on them and I haven't seen one of them in a couple months. The district is getting 70 new MX-M753's this year.

                    These machines are amazing. Some of the problems with the older Dragon series such as the waste toner filling up, and locking the cleaning unit , and lack of a proper cleaning assy. on the lower fuser ect have been addressed. Personally I don't like the new style upper rollers on the 753's (although the old style can be used) and the new sep claws on the upper are a PITA as mentioned above. Even so I would gladly service a fleet of these machines all day.

                    Feed tires last longer than 100K with ease. More like 250-400K. Drums normally last 250-400K as long as you keep up with the new felt seals and cleaning blades. Fusing rollers last 200-300K or so. The lower web is a bit of a pain, but once you've done a dozen or so it's a piece of cake.

                    Overall very few big issues ever come up. Just the routine maintenance. Bottom line is if you stay on top of the service they will make you look good and your customer will be happy.

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