AR-507 Mirror Unit, Stepper or Driver?

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  • engineerboy93
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    • Jul 2014
    • 91

    #16
    Re: AR-507 Mirror Unit, Stepper or Driver?

    Originally posted by Toner Boy
    The 3-phase 'new style' system sucks. The 2-phase brass flywheel system was more reliable IMO, we used to scavenge them off old units prior to recycling (board, harness and motor). Make sure the rails are clean that the scanner slides on.
    The 3 phase system is actually better because it is more precise. It is precise by enabling you to microstep more, so more pulses. They also provide better torque and speed. Obviously the 2 phase worked fine. I honestly would have stuck with what was working the entire time. The motor is not what actually would fail as it is just windings... The only reason I think the 3 phase seems to break down more is because the flip flop that Sharp used is not very reliable. The driver is decent, but the flip flop is terrible and there is no datasheet. The old two phase had the flip flop built into the driver chip and then they had a hex inverter (buffer) chip that was separate. I agree though, the 3 phase does suck, but the motor is not the issue. The driver PWB is the issue, more specifically an 8 dollar chip. Stepper motors are actually very durable electronically, but just do not drop them.

    Noted, I was checking the rails and they will need a little lube soon. Usually all machines I get that I refurbish I end up cleaning the rails and putting new lube on them. I used to use white lithium but I might move to PTFE. I've read a few people use WD40, but I wouldn't because it is a solvent and will clean any old grease off and then evaporate. But that's just from my use of lube fixing automobiles and restoring cars, as far as copiers are concerned I keep lithium grease away from gears because the back of these machines get hot and the grease flings all over. Little PTFE goes a long way

    I checked the pulleys, they have all been replaced. The cables have good tension but are not too tight. The mirror unit is perfect as far as visual alignment is concerned. I'm just waiting on the new flip flop and driver, then this puppy will be back in the saddle, after I get a new hard drive (8 bucks...).

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    • blackcat4866
      Master Of The Obvious

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      • Jul 2007
      • 22996

      #17
      Re: AR-507 Mirror Unit, Stepper or Driver?

      The lubricant I use is straight weight 30W motor oil. Once the rail is clean it only needs three drops per rail, and smear it around well with your finger. Most grease is too heavy, and tends to either harden or collect dust. Additionally, the motor oil does not evaporate or migrate away.
      =^..^=
      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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      • engineerboy93
        Technician

        50+ Posts
        • Jul 2014
        • 91

        #18
        Re: AR-507 Mirror Unit, Stepper or Driver?

        Originally posted by blackcat4866
        The lubricant I use is straight weight 30W motor oil. Once the rail is clean it only needs three drops per rail, and smear it around well with your finger. Most grease is too heavy, and tends to either harden or collect dust. Additionally, the motor oil does not evaporate or migrate away.
        =^..^=
        I've read that you used 30W. I was just pointing out how crazy some people are because I have read that some people used WD40, and I thought that was crazy because WD40 will evaporate as it is a solvent. I'll probably clean up the rails and put a smear of white lithium. On the subject I have some other machines in my artillery that are due to a grease job! *Thanks to the person who brought up the subject originally*

        I wonder if anyone has tried Petrol Jelly... I used to use petrol jelly on my soda vending machines to lube hinges and condition seals, worked well.

        I'm very excited for this mx-2300n, my first colour mfp. It should be interesting to see what is wrong with it...

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        • engineerboy93
          Technician

          50+ Posts
          • Jul 2014
          • 91

          #19
          Re: AR-507 Mirror Unit, Stepper or Driver?

          Update:
          Replace IC's have been ordered and will probably show up in a couple of weeks. I will update again when those come and I have the scanner drive board repaired.

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