MX2300N Cyan Streaks

[engineerboy93]

Hi everyone.
I finally got this 2300n to do a few prints without jamming. Anyways, my copies are coming out with cyan streaks (all) and in some instances the colour appears not to align (automobile magazine). I attached a PDF of what I mean. I'm assuming that I probably have some drums to replace? Any insight is appreciated.
Thank You

[engineerboy93]

Re: MX2300N Cyan Streaks

I removed the uploaded file for security reasons. Point is, streaks on paper. Why would cause, some ideas for me to have bounce in my mind would be great. Thanks

[rh112]

Re: MX2300N Cyan Streaks

Is this machine that you said had not been in use since 2012 ?
If this machine wasn't in use for 2 years who knows what shape the developers and toners are in
What does the 22-6 show for copy counts
I would take a look at the C drum unit take it out turn by hand see if drum is being cleaned well
May be cleaning blade issue
May be developer unit issue

As to the not aligned color if you want to put the $ in it
Replace
All developers
All complete drum units
TC1
TC2
Then do full color calibration You will need special test charts and calibration jig for this

[engineerboy93]

Re: MX2300N Cyan Streaks

Is this machine that you said had not been in use since 2012 ?
If this machine wasn't in use for 2 years who knows what shape the developers and toners are in
What does the 22-6 show for copy counts
I would take a look at the C drum unit take it out turn by hand see if drum is being cleaned well
May be cleaning blade issue
May be developer unit issue

As to the not aligned color if you want to put the $ in it
Replace
All developers
All complete drum units
TC1
TC2
Then do full color calibration You will need special test charts and calibration jig for this

Yup its the one that hasn't been used. It will need all new anything because I checked the dates on the toner and it's the original toner from 2007! except the black, that's from 2010.

I was thinking last night of just replacing the drums, developer, MTB, STB (but STB doesn't look like it is in bad shape at all), and then have the unit calibrated. And of course with that my fuser rollers and all associated cleaning blades... Allot of money, but it is worth it in my eyes because I paid nothing for the machine as it stands. I do know the MTB needs replacing because it has a dent/scratch in it... That was the first thing I noticed when I removed it to inspect the gears.

I'll get back to do with the machine count.

[engineerboy93]

Re: MX2300N Cyan Streaks

Is this machine that you said had not been in use since 2012 ?
If this machine wasn't in use for 2 years who knows what shape the developers and toners are in
What does the 22-6 show for copy counts
I would take a look at the C drum unit take it out turn by hand see if drum is being cleaned well
May be cleaning blade issue
May be developer unit issue

As to the not aligned color if you want to put the $ in it
Replace
All developers
All complete drum units
TC1
TC2
Then do full color calibration You will need special test charts and calibration jig for this

I couldn't print out the data print, but I did 22-1 and was able to get about the same thing.
Total Out (B/W): 52793
Total Out (C): 29328
Maintenance All: 1887
Maintenance Col: 760
TC1 Belt: 1887
TC1 Belt Range: 276414
TC1 Belt Day: 372/740
Fuser Acum Day: 740/740
Fuser Unit: 82223
TC2 Belt: 82223
TC2 Belt Range: 8505426
TC2 Belt Day: 740/740
Drum Life (K): 3
Drum Life (C): 65
Drum Life (M): 65
Drum Life (Y): 65
Deve Life (C): 0
Deve Life (Y): 0
Deve Life (M): 0
Deve Life (K): 0

If you need any more info please ask, I want to peg this before spending wads of money.

[engineerboy93]

Re: MX2300N Cyan Streaks

Oh I also want to make a note. The other night I was cleaning out the waste toner container and notice that the drums were not in the correct spot (I haven't taken and drums out yet). I noticed instead of the drums being (,Y,M,C,B) then were (Y,M,B,C). The toners were (Y,M,C,B). I guess the customer must had switched them around *shrug*.

[Akitu]

Re: MX2300N Cyan Streaks

Stickers on drums don't matter. Every drum functions as either CMYK.

From the looks of your original attachment, your charge units in the cyan and magenta are dirty. Before replacing; try using the green charge grid cleaning rods. It's a bit of a stretch due to how long that machine sat without use but it could potentially save you some $$$.

Barring that, you may need to replace your drums/dev as others have already stated.

[engineerboy93]

Re: MX2300N Cyan Streaks

Stickers on drums don't matter. Every drum functions as either CMYK.

From the looks of your original attachment, your charge units in the cyan and magenta are dirty. Before replacing; try using the green charge grid cleaning rods. It's a bit of a stretch due to how long that machine sat without use but it could potentially save you some $$$.

Barring that, you may need to replace your drums/dev as others have already stated.

I tried the green cleaning rods and it helped very little. I might open up the machine and manually clean everything, just to get by until I have enough money saved up to start replacing components.

Oh, the black drum kit can it be used in place of a color drum? I know the color can work for all.

[harleyrider]

Re: MX2300N Cyan Streaks

If I were you I would buy a manaul from Paul.There are far too many things that can and will go wrong with a color machine to expect them to get fixed on here. Get ready to spend a bunch of $ if you want this to run properly.It looks like all consumables will need to be repaired or replaced. These weren't too great to begin with.

[engineerboy93]

Re: MX2300N Cyan Streaks

If I were you I would buy a manaul from Paul.There are far too many things that can and will go wrong with a color machine to expect them to get fixed on here. Get ready to spend a bunch of $ if you want this to run properly.It looks like all consumables will need to be repaired or replaced. These weren't too great to begin with.

I have a manual already. This is my first colour machine. I already started to look up parts and assess cost... It is certainly going to be upwards 1200 dollars. I don't mind spending the money...I just have to come up with it. Anyways, colour machines seem to be cheap to operate, just expensive to maintain!!!

[NeoMatrix]

Re: MX2300N Cyan Streaks

Remove all the BCYM corona charge grids an """CAREFULLY""" clean them with alcohol an a scour pad. Clean them by wiping one direction only until they shine bright again.

You may need to replace the drum(s).....

HTH

[engineerboy93]

Re: MX2300N Cyan Streaks

Alrighty this is what I have done, other than make a mess of my house...
I removed all the developer and drum units from the machine. I cleaned the dust off of the developer units and cleaned the filters until I order new ones. I disassembled the drum units one at a time, cleaned them out, cleaned the charge grids, cleaned the blades, cleaned the waste toner trough, and finally put everything back together after cleaning the drums. I noticed on a couple of drums that they had toner on them that only came off with some light yet firm rubbing with the rag. Now, here is the kicker in all of this. Earlier I stated that the black and cyan drum units had been switched. Well someone said it makes no difference, well it does in this case. Someone before me has switched the two drums units because the BLACK toner drum is no good; it is deteriorated at the end (black blotches, not toner). So, the bad BLACK drum unit was put in place of where the CYAN unit goes... This explains the cyan streaks. The original CYAN toner drum unit was in the spot where the BLACK unit goes. So, I have a drum to replace at a minimum. I switched them back and I am going to try to make a copy and see if the streaks appear on the black unit.

On my replacement list I have.

- Replace drum
- Replace ALL grids
- Replace PTB/or UNIT
- Replace ALL toner
- Replace ALL developer
- Replace ALL charge grids
- Replace MC seals
- Lube mirror unit rails
- Replace toner filters
- Replace Ozone filters


The cleaner blades are on the list, but they did not look to be in bad shape. Only the felt pads at the tips of the blades looked worn. So I will probably add blades to the list. The transfer grids I cleaned and they looked in good shape. But those MC grids, some had corrosion built up on them.

I'm multi-coloured from all this cleaning, my lungs are probably pink (magenta), with a touch of cyk!

I will update my findings to see if this has changed anything. I also have photos and will have them up in a bit!

[blackcat4866]

Re: MX2300N Cyan Streaks

Do include cleaning blades for drums, and transfer belt. The rubber will have deformed from sitting idle, and will very likely clean poorly just from setting. And yes, it's common to switch around drum units for diagnostic purposes, but not just because the customer is too cheap to buy a drum.

The rest of your list looks right. Be sure to read the part of the manual about stirring the developer and running calibrations. They need to be done in a specific order.

Good luck! =^..^=

[engineerboy93]

Re: MX2300N Cyan Streaks

Do include cleaning blades for drums, and transfer belt. The rubber will have deformed from sitting idle, and will very likely clean poorly just from setting. And yes, it's common to switch around drum units for diagnostic purposes, but not just because the customer is too cheap to buy a drum.

The rest of your list looks right. Be sure to read the part of the manual about stirring the developer and running calibrations. They need to be done in a specific order.

Good luck! =^..^=

When I get to the calibration part I'm going to hire a professional. I could do it, but someone who has done it many times (pro such as yourself) would be more likely to get it right the first time and with little fuss.
I have put those clean blades on the list, another 120+ bucks will go longer than reusing old stuff. I'm not sure who, why, or why the drum units were switched around. I only know what the machine has stored in its memory.

Thanks

[engineerboy93]

Re: MX2300N Cyan Streaks

Just wanted to update my findings. I did some test prints, the cyan streaks are somewhat gone. I tried printing a black and white and no streaks either... I guess the black drum is actually good, but I will replace it anyways. Much better, I am impressed and not surprised what a little cleaning can do. I even remember when I got my SF2040, a little cleaning really helped put out decent copies.

Oh, I will be attaching some scans of before and after the cleaning. I will have photos of the drum units etc. I As I said I did a black and white print and showed nothing. I cannot put a scan of it up because it is a sensitive document, but I can say that the BW copy that came out of this thing is phenomenal!