SF-2214 (I got it for free)

[Guest]

Hello All,

I posted a thread about this maching about 3 weeks ago but I was unable to locate it when I did a search.

I have been told that this unit is a piece of cra%. That I understand... but I got it for free and it only has 25,000 copies on it.

I purchased a manual from "manuals4you" (by the way, chill out man).

When I try to make a copy the paper goes in about 2 or 3 inches and then stops and gives a jamb message.

I know it is a piece of junk but if I can repair it for a reasonable amount or find another one for parts it might be worth it???????????????????

Any suggestions welcome.

Thanks... I love you all.

Pilgrim

[NCArt]

Replace your feed tires. I don't think that the SF2214 is a bad machine, just outdated.

[Pilgrim]

Thanks

Thank you...

Wow! That sounds a little bit like me.

Regards,

Pilgrim

[blackcat4866]

For the sake of a search, the SF2114, 2214, 2314, 2414, & 2514 all are built on the same platform.

I've got (4) for you:

1) Misfeeds 1 out of 5, at the vertical feed roller on SF-2014, 2214. Defective vertical path roller and/or one-way gear. Clean the rear one-way bearing & lubricate lightly with light oil, or replace the Paper Feed Assembly (CFRM-0805DS51).

2) Misfeeds from the paper tray on SF-2414. Dirty registration sensor. Clean the registration sensor.

3) Misfeeds from the paper tray. Registration varies, on SF-2414. Defective registration clutch. Replace the registration clutch (PCLC-0235FCZZ).

4) Misfeeds intermittently from the paper tray on SF-2414. Separation torque limiter binds, dry and packed with paper dust. Clean paper feed tires. Clean & grease the separation torque limiter.

The best way to diagnose dried out rubber rollers is to clean them with Martin Roller Rejuvenator or Orange Solvent. The machine fill feed properly until the rollers dry, then the problem returns.

Use IBM23 Grease or Canon Silicone Clutch Grease to lubricate the torque limiter.

Do not clean Neoprene Rollers with anything harsher than glass cleaner. You can identify neoprene rollers by their translucency (almost clear). Neoprene absorbs solvents and after a few treatments become the texture of pre-chewed bubble gum.

That should get you started. (You paid exactly what it's worth.) =^..^=

[nmfaxman]

Spend the $100.00 to get a tech to look at it.
It was free, invest the money into a local company to help the local economy.
You never know, you may find a tech that knows the machine like his back hand and make it hum for cheap.
He may even put it under a service agreement to keep it running.
If you don't know how to fix it call someone who can and save the cost of your mistakes.

[mtech]

I used to work on these all the time. At 25K you probably just need to replace the tires. The one way bearing on the feed roller is slipping. Also, if you open up the machine and look at the front there is a belt that goes around two gears. Looking from the front, if the gear on the right hand side is white then that should be replaced. The new style(if you can call it new) is a brown color.
NROLR0878FCZZ pick up
NROLR1049FCZ1 feed
CROLR1052FC33 reverse assy.(roller and torque limiter)
(can't remember the gear's number, only that it ends in Z1)
Even if you can find the parts, you really need to have a tech install them as there are too many things that can get messed up by trying it yourself.
Good luck

[Pilgrim]

WHOA!

Thanks folks!

All that info will give me something to start on.

If I thought I could get it fixed by a local pro for a $100 I would. I just don't think their expertise comes that cheaply... nor should it.

Thanks again, I will try your suggestions.

Regards,

Pilgrim

[Pilgrim]

May be a little more information would be appropriate here.

It doesn't make any difference if I insert the document in the manual feeder on the right or the SPF in the cover, I get the same result i.e.; when I push the blue copy button the machine fires up and attempts to grab the paper, or at least it seems to, and then there is dull kind of clank/clunk noise from somewhere inside and close to the bottom. Then the unit shows the jam indicator and an "L" and a "3" are displayed. The maintenance required indicator is on during the whole process.

He man! (60s Talk)… My reach may be longer than my arms and my balls may be bigger than my brains, but what the hell, if I screw it up I will junk it. But it will be very interesting and challenging to try to get it going again. With a little help from my friends (presumptuous and premature) the ever so brilliant members of "Copytechnet", (blowing smoke)

Regards,
Pilgrim

[paul bristol uk]

Beware the pretty ones they break your heart

[deep]

The machine seems need a body check up and have some supplements to help it back to juvenile.

[choicecopyguy]

L3 is a scanner error. When you turn it on watch the scanner and see what happens.

[blackcat4866]

Yes, just lift the lid then press start. Watch through the glass to see if the scanner moves smoothly across (it probably won't).

Next power off, unplug, and remove the glass. Gently grab light source #1 (the one with the lamp in it, but don't touch the lamp) near where it attaches to the scanner cable and manually move it through it's full travel. Feel for rough areas of the travel. Often the lubricant on the rails gets thick and crusty. Clean the entire length of the front and rear rails, and lubricate each rail with 3 or 4 drops of 30W straight weight motor oil (like you use in the lawn mower).

Confirm that the scanner cable (aka: wire rope) is attached, and snug, and not overlapped on the drive drum (where it is coiled). It is not very easy to restring the scanner cable, so don't remove it unless you've got a good reason.

Lastly check the Home Position Sensor. Along the rear frame at the end of the scanner rail you should see a black plastic "U" shaped sensor. There is a flat feature on light source #1 that passes through the "U' shaped part. This is how the scanner knows it's at it's starting point. This is how the machine knows there is an L-3 error. The sensor must be blocked at the beginning of the scan, it must remain unblocked for ~6 seconds while the scanner moves to the end then returns, and it must be blocked again at the conclusion of the scan. The home position sensor is an optical device. A small LED shines across the gap to a receiver. When the light is blocked the receiver responds to the darkness. Dirt in one of these sensors can trick it to think it is blocked all the time. Just take a small brush to brush out any dust bunnies.

Well that was a lot to absorb all at once. Pay attention to how the scanner moves, then come back and describe it to us. =^..^=

It's OK to test the scanner live with the glass off, as long as you keep your hands out of the way of it.

[Pilgrim]

Wow! Wow! Wow!

Your golden man!

Will let you know what gives.

[Pilgrim]

Paper Clip?

Hello again,






The problem is manifested during optical simulation 1-1. In fact nothing happens during simulation 1-1. I basically get the same result as with simulation 1-2 i.e. OPC drum lamp and toner empty lamp are on.

As I said in my previous post, the little red dude comes on as soon as the unit is turned on and remains on as long as the unit is on.

FYI: When I attempt to run a copy, paper is pulled up and out of the cassette tray about 5 inches, but then the unit shuts off after the lamp comes on for about .25 seconds.





This machine and I are starting to become friends. Remember this is all new to me and like my dad said "a change is as good as a rest", so I am enjoying this.

Regards,
Pilgrim

[chakiris]

Try to make a test copy from the bypass tray and if it passes through without paper jam, then there's nothing wrong in your PS clucth.
If the paper jam occurs only when you are using the paper cassete tray, then you have to replace the rubber paper feed rollers (tires only are now available) and the vertical feed rollers should be properly clean and/or replace.
We have the same analysis with blackcat4866, too......