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  • davidj7
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    #16
    when you give print are you able to use tray 5 in the driver?. have you tried in PS and PCL?

    you had said earlier you are not able to select tray 5 when the job comes to command workstation, is that correct?
    a machine is only as good as your tech : source:screwtape ; the scary one

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    • GusG
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      #17
      Originally posted by davidj7
      when you give print are you able to use tray 5 in the driver?. have you tried in PS and PCL?

      you had said earlier you are not able to select tray 5 when the job comes to command workstation, is that correct?
      Hi David, Tray 5 is available in both PS and PCL drivers but it will just tell me the paper size is not available on the RIPs display as well as in Command Workstation (the printer does not give any message).
      I can choose tray 5 in the job from Command Workstation but with the same result.

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      • GusG
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        #18
        Originally posted by xcopytech
        download composite patch from xerox site, install it and then download driver for fiery x12 ver 1.5 vith composite patch.

        maybe your print driver is different then fiery system software version
        Hadn't seen this when I replied that you had said I shouldn't install this, Ill give it a try then

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        • GusG
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          #19
          Originally posted by xcopytech
          download composite patch from xerox site, install it and then download driver for fiery x12 ver 1.5 vith composite patch.

          maybe your print driver is different then fiery system software version
          I've just installed the composite patch and also patch 1-56ps that I see mentioned in other threads. It still won't print from the bypass even with the driver for fiery x12 ver 1.5 vith composite patch, or the one for SP2 for that matter.
          I'm going nuts now!

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          • davidj7
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            #20
            great to know you are going nuts. some times we all go that way.

            Which paper size are you trying to give in the command workstation
            a machine is only as good as your tech : source:screwtape ; the scary one

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            • GusG
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              #21
              Originally posted by davidj7
              great to know you are going nuts. some times we all go that way.

              Which paper size are you trying to give in the command workstation
              Hi David. I've mostly been trying A4. I've realised that when I send it as A4 from the driver it ends up in the command workstation as letter but even if I change it to A4 from command workstation there's no joy.

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              • davidj7
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                #22
                what happens when you submit job as letter instead of A4
                a machine is only as good as your tech : source:screwtape ; the scary one

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                • GusG
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by davidj7
                  what happens when you submit job as letter instead of A4
                  It turns up in command workstation as letter but still does not print

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                  • davidj7
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                    #24
                    are u able to print from other trays? does command workstation shows "tray 5 broken"
                    a machine is only as good as your tech : source:screwtape ; the scary one

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                    • GusG
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by davidj7
                      are u able to print from other trays? does command workstation shows "tray 5 broken"
                      Yes I can print from all other trays and command workstation does not show tray 5 broken, indeed I can copy from it so I think it must be an issue with the RIP.

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                      • davidj7
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                        #26
                        RIP is the only possiblity that i can think of. Sorry dude my brain's fried on this one.
                        a machine is only as good as your tech : source:screwtape ; the scary one

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                        • GusG
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by davidj7
                          RIP is the only possiblity that i can think of. Sorry dude my brain's fried on this one.
                          Thanks for coming this far

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                          • GusG
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by GusG
                            Hi. My newly installed (but not new) DC12 (with Fiery X12 RIP) won't print to the bypass tray (tray 5) yet it did so yesterday. I get a message on the RIP saying "Selected paper size is not available" despite the tray setup on the printer and the printer driver matching.
                            We did the tray 5 adjustment (DC740) from a PWS some time ago, no joy. Then my tech decided to reset some NVMs for another reason, this unintentionally reset all the paper trays to normal paper and upon trying the bypass it now suddenly works!!!

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                            • GusG
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by GusG
                              We did the tray 5 adjustment (DC740) from a PWS some time ago, no joy. Then my tech decided to reset some NVMs for another reason, this unintentionally reset all the paper trays to normal paper and upon trying the bypass it now suddenly works!!!
                              We did the tray 5 adjustment (DC740) from a PWS some time ago, no joy. Then my tech decided to reset some NVMs for another reason, this unintentionally reset all the paper trays to normal paper and upon trying the bypass it now suddenly works!!!
                              [/quote]
                              Well, this worked fine for some time and suddenly the other morning the bypass is back to square 1, i.e. it works fine when copying and not when printing through the Fiery X12.
                              My tech has tried to recreate what he did the last time where he unintentionally got it working but this time it hasn't worked out. My instinct now is to reset the NVMs but I don't have a list of NVMs specific to my particular machine. This machine came from the UK and I'd like to know if anyone has a general list of UK NVM settings they can share with me or any other advice with regards to resetting the NVMs? Alternatively, does anyone know about particular NVMs that may be directly concerned with my bypass not working when printing and what to do about it?
                              Any help would be greatly appreciated, with the nature of my work my DC12 is only 25% the machine I need it to be when the bypass is not working.
                              Thanks is advance.

                              P.S. I'm beginning to think that NVM should be VVM (Very Volatile Memory)

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                              • GusG
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                                #30
                                DC12 not printing from bypass tray - back to square 1

                                I'm back to square 1 with my DC12 suddenly not printing from tray 5 (bypass tray) and giving the following message on the RIP (X12) "Selected paper size is not available". When I got it it had this problem which suddenly went away when my tech reset some NVMs, it later came back and he couldn't remember what he did last time but when we reset all the NVMs it started working again, now it's gone again and resetting the NVMs does not bring back printing to tray 5. In summary:

                                - When the problem occurs and I try to print I get the following message on the RIP and on the Workstation, but not on the DC12: "Selected paper size is not available"
                                - Printing to tray 5 works sometimes and sometimes not
                                - Printing from PWS or copying always works
                                - The paper size is not the issue
                                - Tray 5 alignment/calibration (DC740) does not solve this problem
                                - Resetting all NVMs sometimes makes it work and sometimes not
                                - Fiddling with the settings of paper trays 1-4 has sometimes made tray 5 work
                                - We've cleaned the bypass tray plug and a connector on the IOT PWB that was suggested in the past but it hasn't helped

                                I've had lots of input on this in the past (thanks to all who've contributed) but anything new will be a great help.

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