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  • ronpfid
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    • Oct 2012
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    Sticky Grease?

    Anyone know what the blue/greenish colored sticky grease is you find on the gears in many HP machines and where maybe to get that stuff?
    thanks
  • Phil B.
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    #2
    Re: Sticky Grease?

    Originally posted by ronpfid
    Anyone know what the blue/greenish colored sticky grease is you find on the gears in many HP machines and where maybe to get that stuff?
    thanks
    frankly I remove that grease and use a high temp salt resistant wheel bearing grease ... never had it clump dry out or get sticky

    sticky grease = BAD

    found in ANY auto/marine/walmart it's also blue ( deep ) in color

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    • ronpfid
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      Re: Sticky Grease?

      Originally posted by Phil B.
      frankly I remove that grease and use a high temp salt resistant wheel bearing grease ... never had it clump dry out or get sticky

      sticky grease = BAD

      found in ANY auto/marine/walmart it's also blue ( deep ) in color
      oh wow cool, and it won't hurt plastic? I'm thinking of the swing plate gears in like a 4345, so I don't have to go through replacing them for the longest time possible

      Would this be good and plastic safe? My local walmart carries it


      or this ?

      Amazon.com: Maxima 80916 Waterproof Grease - 16 oz. Bottle: Automotive

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      • Phil B.
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        Re: Sticky Grease?

        Originally posted by ronpfid
        oh wow cool, and it won't hurt plastic? I'm thinking of the swing plate gears in like a 4345, so I don't have to go through replacing them for the longest time possible

        Would this be good and plastic safe? My local walmart carries it



        this one is it.. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Super-Tech-Marine-Grease-14-oz/16928008?athcpid=16928008&athpgid=athenaItemPage&a thcgid=null&athznid=PWVAV&athieid=v0&athstid=CS002 &athguid=466001f5-9d001bff-ec6436613ee33c34&athena=true

        never had an issue on plastic with it yet.. I keep a pill bottle in tool bag filled with it.. Qtip stem or similar to apply

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        • ronpfid
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          Re: Sticky Grease?

          OK cool, I'll try that, I was just worried about putting one on that later might ruin the swing gears, like slowly eat through or something, but if you've been using that with no issues, it sounds good, thanks for the link!

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          • theengel
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            • Nov 2011
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            Re: Sticky Grease?

            I don't think it's really going to make them live any longer.

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            • ronpfid
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              Re: Sticky Grease?

              Originally posted by theengel
              I don't think it's really going to make them live any longer.
              really? How can grease 'not' lower friction and reduce the wear on the plastic teeth?

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              • Kiran Otter
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                Re: Sticky Grease?

                I use this from Nye, same people that make the oil that should be used on carriage rails in wide-format printers. http://a.co/0G6QH0K

                It's a huge tube and unless you're fixing 20 printers a day it should last you a very long time.

                Kiran

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                • ronpfid
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                  Re: Sticky Grease?

                  Originally posted by Kiran Otter
                  I use this from Nye, same people that make the oil that should be used on carriage rails in wide-format printers. http://a.co/0G6QH0K

                  It's a huge tube and unless you're fixing 20 printers a day it should last you a very long time.

                  Kiran
                  cool thanks!

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                  • theengel
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                    Re: Sticky Grease?

                    really? How can grease 'not' lower friction and reduce the wear on the plastic teeth?
                    It would be cool if that could be tested and documented. It's my opinion (that's right--it's just an opinion and I have absolutely no way to give evidence for or against, and don't in any way begrudge other techs with opposing opinions) that when you've got parts that rub together under pressure, any grease you put on there is going to work its way out towards the sides in a matter of months, and quickly become irrelevant. Especially in this case, where's there's two different kinds of plastic. It might work for a little while, but I think unless you constantly replenish it (like--every month) then it's futile--which is why HP doesn't put grease on them to begin with.

                    In fact, I would even guess that it will do more harm than good. The bits of dust will combine with the grease and, instead of falling down below the fuser, will continue to cause even more friction. I know for a fact that in some cases you do NOT use grease for this very reason.

                    HP loves that white grease--but they don't put any there. As far as I know, anyway. I don't think I've looked for it in a new machine.

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                    • Kiran Otter
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                      Re: Sticky Grease?

                      I've always thought they put grease on gears mostly to keep them quiet, but also to reduce wear.

                      Kiran

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                      • ronpfid
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                        • Oct 2012
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                        #12
                        Re: Sticky Grease?

                        Originally posted by theengel
                        It would be cool if that could be tested and documented. It's my opinion (that's right--it's just an opinion and I have absolutely no way to give evidence for or against, and don't in any way begrudge other techs with opposing opinions) that when you've got parts that rub together under pressure, any grease you put on there is going to work its way out towards the sides in a matter of months, and quickly become irrelevant. Especially in this case, where's there's two different kinds of plastic. It might work for a little while, but I think unless you constantly replenish it (like--every month) then it's futile--which is why HP doesn't put grease on them to begin with.

                        In fact, I would even guess that it will do more harm than good. The bits of dust will combine with the grease and, instead of falling down below the fuser, will continue to cause even more friction. I know for a fact that in some cases you do NOT use grease for this very reason.

                        HP loves that white grease--but they don't put any there. As far as I know, anyway. I don't think I've looked for it in a new machine.
                        Hmmm that's an interesting point....
                        Now I've gotten some gear assemblies from HP that had that blue sticky grease on it, that's what prompted me to post this...
                        I guess danged if we do, danged if we dont! lol

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