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  • nathicana
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    HP M551 poor quality prints

    This HP M551 has smeared prints with mixed colors. The problem is visible on the transfer belt as though it is not cleaning properly.

    The transfer unit has been replaced, no help.

    The toner is non HP
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  • tmw
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    Re: HP M551 poor quality prints

    Hard to tell only from the example, but what's the status of the toners ? Even if the machine says they're not done yet, the waste compartments could be full & backing out onto the print & transfer roller. If you're adventurous you could get the drums out & clean out the waste. If not, just replace the toners.

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    • Phil B.
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      Re: HP M551 poor quality prints

      Originally posted by nathicana
      This HP M551 has smeared prints with mixed colors. The problem is visible on the transfer belt as though it is not cleaning properly.

      The transfer unit has been replaced, no help.

      The toner is non HP
      1) in 30 years of this, I have RARELY found ANY 3rd party toners that work as expected in a HP unit. Static Control is the one that I have found that works, China crap never does.

      2) you didn't supply any pertinent info life on Drums/Belt/Fuser. China crap uses cheep drums in their units also.

      3) Did you properly clean the machine and calibrate the machine for the new toners (docs tell us to do that with every new toner)

      4) have you checked paper path for scraps of paper/foreign objects that could cause the smearing.

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      • tsbservice
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        Re: HP M551 poor quality prints

        Originally posted by nathicana
        This HP M551 has smeared prints with mixed colors. The problem is visible on the transfer belt as though it is not cleaning properly.

        The transfer unit has been replaced, no help.

        The toner is non HP
        Originally posted by tmw
        Hard to tell only from the example, but what's the status of the toners ? Even if the machine says they're not done yet, the waste compartments could be full & backing out onto the print & transfer roller. If you're adventurous you could get the drums out & clean out the waste. If not, just replace the toners.
        Originally posted by Phil B.
        1) in 30 years of this, I have RARELY found ANY 3rd party toners that work as expected in a HP unit. Static Control is the one that I have found that works, China crap never does.

        2) you didn't supply any pertinent info life on Drums/Belt/Fuser. China crap uses cheep drums in their units also.

        3) Did you properly clean the machine and calibrate the machine for the new toners (docs tell us to do that with every new toner)

        4) have you checked paper path for scraps of paper/foreign objects that could cause the smearing.
        Thanks for honest description.
        As folks replied double check the source of almost all print quality problems - especially with HP products, compatible c.ap.
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        • nathicana
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          Re: HP M551 poor quality prints

          Originally posted by tmw
          Hard to tell only from the example, but what's the status of the toners ? Even if the machine says they're not done yet, the waste compartments could be full & backing out onto the print & transfer roller. If you're adventurous you could get the drums out & clean out the waste. If not, just replace the toners.
          Here are the supply status reports. Black cartridge is genuine, others are non oem
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          • nathicana
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            Originally posted by Phil B.
            1) in 30 years of this, I have RARELY found ANY 3rd party toners that work as expected in a HP unit. Static Control is the one that I have found that works, China crap never does.

            2) you didn't supply any pertinent info life on Drums/Belt/Fuser. China crap uses cheep drums in their units also.

            3) Did you properly clean the machine and calibrate the machine for the new toners (docs tell us to do that with every new toner)

            4) have you checked paper path for scraps of paper/foreign objects that could cause the smearing.
            Black(Genuine) 20%

            Cyan(non HP) 100%

            Magenta(non HP) 40%

            Yellow(non HP) 80%

            Fuser 90%

            Transfer belt is new

            According to the service manual full calibration runs automatically after replacing the transfer belt, maybe I should run it again.

            Will look for foreign objects and paper stuck in machine and re-clean.

            I agree about the non HP toner being undesirable.

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            • Drivee
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              Originally posted by Phil B.
              1) in 30 years of this, I have RARELY found ANY 3rd party toners that work as expected in a HP unit. Static Control is the one that I have found that works, China crap never does.
              .
              Static Control cartridges comming from China. Static Control is China. Ninestar bay SCC. Cartridges are not IP safe, most of them are Clones or new build.
              Regarding material, they ar enot made in US like before. They are from China.

              Regarding issue.
              Is that magenta bacgraund on test print? Looking test pages, for sure black cartridge is bad. Black lines comming from K color. Wiper blade or similar. Take picture of OPC.

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              • Phil B.
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                Originally posted by Drivee
                Static Control cartridges comming from China. Static Control is China. Ninestar bay SCC. Cartridges are not IP safe, most of them are Clones or new build.
                Regarding material, they ar enot made in US like before. They are from China.

                Regarding issue.
                Is that magenta bacgraund on test print? Looking test pages, for sure black cartridge is bad. Black lines comming from K color. Wiper blade or similar. Take picture of OPC.
                static control is located in SANFORD NC.... they make the toner there.

                I have been trained there HAVE YOU?

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                • Drivee
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                  Originally posted by Phil B.
                  static control is located in SANFORD NC.... they make the toner there.

                  I have been trained there HAVE YOU?
                  Yes, I was there 2009 or 2010 and they pay a air ticet from Europe to US.
                  I will give you example

                  Look chip from Apex for 43X and from SCC. Same chips, SCC just print U5-2.
                  All comming from China now..they are China company. After old man die, son try to reach same level of bussines and he did not sucess. Then he sell company to Ninestar. Maybe something is still in US but not for long. I think they leave Lexmark chips there..

                  After that they become our competition and we stop to work with them. I test cartridges from SCC, they are all new build, poor qulaity..they comming from China, Zuhai.

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                  • Phil B.
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                    Originally posted by Drivee
                    Yes, I was there 2009 or 2010 and they pay a air ticet from Europe to US.
                    I will give you example

                    Look chip from Apex for 43X and from SCC. Same chips, SCC just print U5-2.
                    All comming from China now..they are China company. After old man die, son try to reach same level of bussines and he did not sucess. Then he sell company to Ninestar. Maybe something is still in US but not for long. I think they leave Lexmark chips there..

                    After that they become our competition and we stop to work with them. I test cartridges from SCC, they are all new build, poor qulaity..they comming from China, Zuhai.
                    SCC is expanding as we speak. The make their own chips there... they make the toner there... the make the PCR's and OPC's there.

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                    • Phil B.
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                      30 years in the business.. expanding ...

                      Static Control | Our History

                      Static Control | Global Resources

                      i was there in 1992 training on monochrome refurbishing toner carts.

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                      • Drivee
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                        Yes, all China companies are expending...

                        Bay PCR's from SCC and from PTN(China) Everyhing is the same... also, all small parts, gears, reset gears etc are from TPE(Triton, Zuhai)..
                        Maybe they produce in US nevertab PCR's or similar.. you will see, they will be just trade company for China.
                        They leave some part of production as Americans like made in US, but, true is-all China parts.

                        Apex acquires Static Control Components

                        May 7, 2015

                        Within the last few hours Reuters reports that Static Control Components has been sold to Apex in a $63 million cash deal.

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                        • Phil B.
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                          Originally posted by Drivee
                          Yes, all China companies are expending...

                          Bay PCR's from SCC and from PTN(China) Everyhing is the same... also, all small parts, gears, reset gears etc are from TPE(Triton, Zuhai)..
                          Maybe they produce in US nevertab PCR's or similar.. you will see, they will be just trade company for China.
                          They leave some part of production as Americans like made in US, but, true is-all China parts.
                          you are full of shit.... ALL parts in SCC toners are manufactured IN NC.

                          china products are shit... they cut corners everywhere....

                          i am done with your 39yr old know it all attitude.

                          i have almost 30 years in this industry more than you are OLD.


                          fuck off

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                          • Drivee
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                            Old man should not talk like this. no no no

                            I understand you, the truth hurts. I am 20 year in bussines and I know what I talk. bay some parts from Apex and from SCC, you will see, they are made in China.
                            Don't get me wrong, I dont like that Apex-SCC story but all what I talk is real.

                            If you need help, I will send some material from Apex, you can bay from SCC.

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                            • Phil B.
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                              Originally posted by Drivee
                              Old man should not talk like this. no no no

                              I understand you, the truth hurts. I am 20 year in bussines and I know what I talk. bay some parts from Apex and from SCC, you will see, they are made in China.
                              Don't get me wrong, I dont like that Apex-SCC story but all what I talk is real.

                              If you need help, I will send some material from Apex, you can bay from SCC.
                              i don't beleive in talking in PC terms. I say what I mean and mean what I say.

                              20 years? i've got 31 under my belt... I own my own company...

                              been factory trained on 12 different brands.

                              i'm sorry you are a pussy and WORDS hurt your Millennial feelings. Grow a pair ... stand up like a man... get boxers instead of lace panties.

                              your type are the problem with the world now.

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