Does a laser printer with larger cartridges support proportionally as many refills?

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  • aab1
    End User
    • Oct 2010
    • 305

    #1

    Does a laser printer with larger cartridges support proportionally as many refills?

    I have the Canon MF8350Cdn and find the amount of maintenance/refills/replacements it needs are ridiculous. I can barely print 300 pages before I either run out of toner in a cartridge or need to replace a cartridge because weird printing defects appear.

    I also have an HP Business inkjet that needs maintenance 6 times per 50 000 prints (all 4 colors last for 50 000 prints each and I have 2 printheads to replace every 50 000 prints) and that maintenance is infinitely easier. The laser printer needs maintenance every 200-400 pages and feel like I spend more time replacing parts than printing, I don't have time to replace parts so often.

    I was thinking of getting the HP Color Laserjet 3530 which does 7000 prints instead of 2800 which is at least half the maintenance. One of my concerns is, if my Canon cartridges can take 2-3 refills before quality degrades, does this mean I could also get 2-3 refills out of the bigger HP cartridges (meaning I'd get 21000 to 28000 prints per cartridge)? Or would they fail after less refills since they hold more toner?

    If I can't find a reasonable laser printer that doesn't need refills or maintenance so often I'm going back to reliable inkjet where I can makes 50 000 prints before any degradation in quality whatsoever, and this on a $500 machine. Not to mention the cost per page is about to 80 times lower on a business inkjet than the small laser I have now.
  • I3FusionGuy
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • Jun 2009
    • 71

    #2
    Re: Does a laser printer with larger cartridges support proportionally as many refill

    So, when are you going to start hawking your continuous ink system? I

    t may work for you, but its just not a viable option for people who cant even be trusted to change their own ink or toner.

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    • sandmanmac
      Field Supervisor

      Site Contributor
      2,500+ Posts
      • Feb 2009
      • 3979

      #3
      Re: Does a laser printer with larger cartridges support proportionally as many refill

      You`re getting screwed on your Laser cartridges. Period. If your numbers are accurate, then the supplier/company you`re using are flat-out stealing from you, by selling you 7-10 cartridges for every 1 that you should need + unnecessary service!
      Find an honest and reliable recharger that stands behind their work, and provides decent yields -there`s lots of them out there
      As for your inkjet...you`re simply out of your mind with those figures.

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      • jonezy999
        just one copy??

        Site Contributor
        500+ Posts
        • Feb 2010
        • 952

        #4
        Re: Does a laser printer with larger cartridges support proportionally as many refill

        Flog the dead horse some more. Who in their right mind would try to run a printing business with a cheap printer that takes cartridges to begin with? As for refills, I don't really have an opinion on the subject, I don't refill and I wouldn't stand behind them if I did. You seem like you are pretty tight with your wallet, but in this game, a real printer, (one that actually costs some $$$) will save you money in the long run and even make you some profit. Hell, some companies will just about give you a $20 grand printer at a very competitive cost per page contract with maintenance included. Or you could just stick with the magical inkjet of yours.
        I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. ~Thomas Edison

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        • KenB
          Geek Extraordinaire

          2,500+ Posts
          • Dec 2007
          • 3944

          #5
          Re: Does a laser printer with larger cartridges support proportionally as many refill

          I'm sorry... but you simply can't use the terms "support" and "refills" in the same sentence.

          Every cartridge re manufacturer has their own specs (to their own benefit, to be sure), and not one OEM manufacturer recommends or supports it in any way.

          In addition, credible re-manufacturers also change the drum, cleaning blade, etc... as part of their process.

          The "drill 'em and fill 'em" wannabees are all but totally extinct now, and by what you have described, that's the category you fall into.
          “I think you should treat good friends like a fine wine. That’s why I keep mine locked up in the basement.” - Tim Hawkins

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          • sandmanmac
            Field Supervisor

            Site Contributor
            2,500+ Posts
            • Feb 2009
            • 3979

            #6
            Re: Does a laser printer with larger cartridges support proportionally as many refill

            Originally posted by sandmanmac
            You`re getting screwed on your Laser cartridges. Period. If your numbers are accurate, then the supplier/company you`re using are flat-out stealing from you, by selling you 7-10 cartridges for every 1 that you should need + unnecessary service!
            Find an honest and reliable recharger that stands behind their work, and provides decent yields -there`s lots of them out there
            As for your inkjet...you`re simply out of your mind with those figures.
            Check that post. LOL!!!!
            I`ve since checked into your history, and realized I`m a little late to the party on you. You`re actually the dumbass costing yourself so much money, asking stupid question after stupid question, getting very good advice for free, but then arguing with all the experts providing you this free advice. You bring no helpful information to the table.
            Why are you here? You apparently have every answer to every question you`ve ever asked -however misguided. You are an absolute cheapskate that ends up paying far more by trying to do things yourself and cutting corners that should never be cut. We`ve all seen it a million times, but you fail to heed our advice just the same

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            • Eric1968
              Service Manager

              1,000+ Posts
              • Jan 2009
              • 2458

              #7
              Re: Does a laser printer with larger cartridges support proportionally as many refill

              A few weeks ago he wanted to leave this forum, asking questions about how to do that. And there he is again! Welll, always good to start the day with a good laugh!

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              • banginbishop
                grumpy old git

                500+ Posts
                • Oct 2007
                • 894

                #8
                Re: Does a laser printer with larger cartridges support proportionally as many refill

                Originally posted by eric1968
                a few weeks ago he wanted to leave this forum, asking questions about how to do that. And there he is again! Welll, always good to start the day with a good laugh!
                blackcat, calling blackcat where are you?
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                • blackcat4866
                  Master Of The Obvious

                  Site Contributor
                  10,000+ Posts
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 22999

                  #9
                  Re: Does a laser printer with larger cartridges support proportionally as many refill

                  What do you need bishop?

                  aab1 looks foolish enough all by himself, without me kicking him any more.
                  I sort-of feel sorry for him. He continues to ask questions, but refuses to listen to the answers if they don't agree with his particular slanted viewpoint.

                  It's a perfect example of a lot of techs I've worked with. They are frustrated and ask for suggestions, but immediately disregard anything I suggest. "No, that can't be it ... Anything else?" I just smile, and go my own way. He's only harming himself.
                  =^..^=
                  If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                  1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                  2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                  3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                  4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                  5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                  blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                  • Brian8506
                    Service Manager

                    Site Contributor
                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 1664

                    #10
                    Re: Does a laser printer with larger cartridges support proportionally as many refill

                    This post is from 12/1. Maybe he really made good on his threat to cancel his account.

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                    • banginbishop
                      grumpy old git

                      500+ Posts
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 894

                      #11
                      Re: Does a laser printer with larger cartridges support proportionally as many refill

                      Originally posted by blackcat4866
                      What do you need bishop?

                      aab1 looks foolish enough all by himself, without me kicking him any more.
                      I sort-of feel sorry for him. He continues to ask questions, but refuses to listen to the answers if they don't agree with his particular slanted viewpoint.

                      It's a perfect example of a lot of techs I've worked with. They are frustrated and ask for suggestions, but immediately disregard anything I suggest. "No, that can't be it ... Anything else?" I just smile, and go my own way. He's only harming himself.
                      =^..^=
                      you just crack me up - your probably one of the most polite people on here but this guy just winds you up. Makes me laugh which is why i dont get involved with this guy as i have enough customers out there just like him who wont listen.
                      Incontinentia Buttocks

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