Why such a big price difference for the printer only VS all in one version?

[aab1]

The HP CM3530 all in one copier I got is $2500 MSRP but the printer only version (CM3525) is about $800 MSRP.

The main differences I see are the 8" color touch screen and scanner. Of course the touch screen also means far more options on the machine but still, how do they justify $1700 extra for a touch screen and scanner?

Or are there more differences between the 2 I'm not aware of? $1700 seems very pricey for a scanner when the printer alone is $800.

Thanks

[Jules Winfield]

Re: Why such a big price difference for the printer only VS all in one version?

The cost difference is due to the hidden wireless camera we talked about in one of your other posts... Those things are expensive.

[Rob Sandberg]

Re: Why such a big price difference for the printer only VS all in one version?

Back in 1981 when I first started with HP I was informed the HP logo was a transmitter sending trade secerts back to Japan.
They also said this why HP stands for HIGH PRICE.

Just sayin....

Rob S

[JustManuals]

Re: Why such a big price difference for the printer only VS all in one version?

The difference is explained in the service manual.

[mojorolla]

Re: Why such a big price difference for the printer only VS all in one version?

I'm feeling nice today....

the glaring difference is the scanner and document feeder units. Anyone with eyes, even a single eye and a patch, can see that. That means it would contain at least a CCD or CIS, a drive system to move said CCD/CIS to and fro, various mirrors and lenses, various boards to process the images and run the motors and sensors, and the cabinet to house it all.

Now on to the document feeder!

It would also contain a drive system, rolls to move paper, baffles, solenoids, clutches, sensors, and various boards to control aforementioned items.

Now you need firmware and code to get the additional pieces to work together, so you need engineers. Engineers are not cheap, just as the previously listed parts.

Then you have to factor in the lawyers. Copyright and patent issues and the such. Lawyers cost even MORE than engineers!

Let us not forget about assemblers to add all these new pieces. These are pretty cheap compared to engineers and lawyers.

After that, the product is tested and sold to you. I hope that this answer is thorough enough.

And they say "...there is no such thing as a dumb question..". I beg to differ.

[aab1]

Re: Why such a big price difference for the printer only VS all in one version?

Thanks for the detailed reply, but on HP Officejet Pro inkjet series, the printer only model might be $200 while the all in one model might be $250 or $300. The scanner & ADF on the inkjets are almost if not identical to the scanner & ADF on the laserjets.

So if they can add a scanner and ADF for $50-100 on an inkjet, why does a nearly identical scanner and ADF cost $1700 on a laserjet? That's the part I don't get.

It's possible the scanner/ADF is faster on the laserjet, but I'm quite sure the scanner resolution is much higher on the inkjets models (though the printer resolution is also 4 to 8 times higher on inkjets), it's only a 600 DPI scanner on this laserjet.

Thanks

[nmfaxman]

Re: Why such a big price difference for the printer only VS all in one version?

Because they can.

[JustManuals]

Re: Why such a big price difference for the printer only VS all in one version?

Because they can.

Just like dogs who lick their balls.

[fixthecopier]

Re: Why such a big price difference for the printer only VS all in one version?

So, when you sent this question to HP, what did they say?

[aab1]

Re: Why such a big price difference for the printer only VS all in one version?

So, when you sent this question to HP, what did they say?

I didn't ask HP, I got the all in one model because I want the ability to copy/scan and to me it was worth the extra price to have all that in the same machine, though I did get it used for half price, still nearly double the cost of the printer only version.

I might have noticed another major difference, this all in one model must have something like 200 settings if not more through the 8" color LCD touchscreen which makes it highly customizable, am I right in assuming that the printer only model might have little to no settings at all that can be user defined?

If so, then having all these settings definitely adds a lot of value.

[blackcat4866]

Re: Why such a big price difference for the printer only VS all in one version?

Remember these posts when you come back a year from now and tell us what a piece of crap this printer is, and why can't it print on 300g/m2 cardstock. =^..^=

[aab1]

Re: Why such a big price difference for the printer only VS all in one version?

Remember these posts when you come back a year from now and tell us what a piece of crap this printer is, and why can't it print on 300g/m2 cardstock. =^..^=

It does support up to 220g card stock which is the thickest I need anyway. Also it has none of the endless problems the Canon had:
-Canon took 5 minutes to start printing from sleep mode, this HP takes seconds even from Sleep 2
-Canon had a limit of printing 99 pages at a time, even when printing from a computer, this was absolutely ridiculous, this HP has no limit when printing from a computer and a 999 copy limit
-Canon requires going through an endless list of on screen menus to set the paper type each time you use a different type (and I very often switch from plain to glossy to card to labels) with no paper type options in the print driver, with this HP, just choose the paper type in the print properties when printing and that's it
-Canon didn't do double sided scamming... I mean scanning, that was ridiculous for an $800 machine, especially when $200 inkjet Canon copiers do double sided scanning, of course this HP does double sided scanning

So I won't be saying this HP is a piece of crap as it certainly isn't, it solves all the problems the Canon has and then adds a boatload of new features. I know some had said Canon intentionally crippled their lower end machines in the hopes people would pay more for the higher end models, but all it did for me is ensure I won't be buying a Canon machine again.