Lexmarl C748DE No Red at all

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  • Lance15
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    #16
    Re: Lexmarl C748DE No Red at all

    Photoconductor Unit

    Start with that. More than likely the problem.

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    • Dave
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      • Jan 2010
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      #17
      Re: Lexmarl C748DE No Red at all

      Did that, no change.

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      • Lance15
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        #18
        Re: Lexmarl C748DE No Red at all

        40X6401, 40X5096, 40X8307 - Lexmark C734 Transfer Module, IT Item Inc.


        Transfer Belt (ITU). Possible faulty charge roll under the belt for magenta.

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        • Dave
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          #19
          Re: Lexmarl C748DE No Red at all

          Very plausible. I will swap the roller.



          Originally posted by Lance15
          40X6401, 40X5096, 40X8307 - Lexmark C734 Transfer Module, IT Item Inc.


          Transfer Belt (ITU). Possible faulty charge roll under the belt for magenta.

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          • Phil B.
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            #20
            Re: Lexmarl C748DE No Red at all

            Originally posted by Dave
            I am quite sure the toner is new, have you seen issues like this with these magenta toner units right out of the box? Just to clarify, there is toner on the mag roller. When I wipe a small area on the mag roller with a clean, lint free cloth, it goes away when the motor turns on after the door is shut. The machine runs, no trouble codes. I have the transfer belt unit out of the machine and am going to go over the magenta transfer roller and connections with a fine tooth comb. If I do get to the point where I replace the toner I'll probably just send the machine to surplus. Also, what is the procedure for printing out the "quality page"?
            Thanks!!
            ARE THESE OEM or compatible toners?

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            • Phil B.
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              #21
              Re: Lexmarl C748DE No Red at all

              do you have a menu option i service mode to be able to SWAP toners? ( like HP DISABLE cart check? )

              have you checked laser shutter?

              my guess compat toners... bad transfer ( if ROS is not the issue )

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              • Lance15
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                #22
                Re: Lexmarl C748DE No Red at all

                The laser in this model is a block like the 3600/3800/CP3505 machines. They don't have the shutters to keep the glass clean. Never thought about aftermarket toner considering all explanations only seem to point to magenta. My guess would be the charge roller underneath the belt associated with magenta. Have never seen where you can only order a charge roller. Gotta replace the whole belt.

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                • Dave
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                  #23
                  Re: Lexmarl C748DE No Red at all

                  I did a stop test and I have no magenta on the drum. I found out today that the magenta cartridge is definitely new and genuine Lexmark brand. I also swapped the drum again and cleaned the ground contacts for it. Also found the test for the toner sensor and that is changing state as it should. IÂ’m still researching the manual because it feels like there is something particular to lexmark or this model that I am not aware of... IÂ’m not sure changing the transfer belt will help, there didnÂ’t appear to be anything there to transfer. It could a bad laser but there no errors logged. More later

                  Originally posted by Lance15
                  The laser in this model is a block like the 3600/3800/CP3505 machines. They don't have the shutters to keep the glass clean. Never thought about aftermarket toner considering all explanations only seem to point to magenta. My guess would be the charge roller underneath the belt associated with magenta. Have never seen where you can only order a charge roller. Gotta replace the whole belt.

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                  • Dave
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                    #24
                    Re: Lexmarl C748DE No Red at all

                    Thanks and I appreciate all the valuable and thought provoking input. I do not have a spare transfer belt unit and I don't want to pop for a new one so I am going to take the belt and rollers off the unit, clean it, and when I put it back together I will swap the magenta transfer roller with cyan or yellow. I'll keep you posted.
                    Lance15, do you know if I should see an error code on this particular model if the laser does not turn on? Is there a beam detect sensor on this model?

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                    • Dave
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                      #25
                      Re: Lexmarl C748DE No Red at all

                      I jus found this in the manual. It looks like it enables cartridge swap.Enforce color order LEXMK.jpg




                      Originally posted by Phil B.
                      do you have a menu option i service mode to be able to SWAP toners? ( like HP DISABLE cart check? )

                      have you checked laser shutter?

                      my guess compat toners... bad transfer ( if ROS is not the issue )

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                      • Phil B.
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                        #26
                        Re: Lexmarl C748DE No Red at all

                        Originally posted by Dave
                        I jus found this in the manual. It looks like it enables cartridge swap.[ATTACH=CONFIG]41948[/ATTACH]
                        there ya go.. enable .. switch carts... see if problem travels to the new spot

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                        • Dave
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                          #27
                          Re: Lexmarl C748DE No Red at all

                          The problem did not move with the cartridge. Correct me if I am wrong, transfer issue or Laser issue.
                          Thanks!!

                          Originally posted by Phil B.
                          there ya go.. enable .. switch carts... see if problem travels to the new spot

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                          • Phil B.
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                            #28
                            Re: Lexmarl C748DE No Red at all

                            Originally posted by Dave
                            The problem did not move with the cartridge. Correct me if I am wrong, transfer issue or Laser issue.
                            Thanks!!
                            Well..ROS replacement can b PIA.. can you rob an ITB to test?

                            Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

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                            • Lance15
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                              #29
                              Re: Lexmarl C748DE No Red at all

                              Correct me if I'm wrong, but, I think typically with these block type laser/scanners, there are two physical lasers that do two colors each. Say, BLACK & CYAN and MAGENTA & YELLOW. If you've got yellow, you'll have magenta too.

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                              • Phil B.
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                                #30
                                Re: Lexmarl C748DE No Red at all

                                Originally posted by Lance15
                                Correct me if I'm wrong, but, I think typically with these block type laser/scanners, there are two physical lasers that do two colors each. Say, BLACK & CYAN and MAGENTA & YELLOW. If you've got yellow, you'll have magenta too.
                                well hell... yes they would split two colors... digress

                                so Lance you have narrowed it down to ITB!

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