Ricoh CL3000 Color PCU Unit leaking?

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  • Joe L
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2020
    • 3

    Ricoh CL3000 Color PCU Unit leaking?

    Good morning,

    could someone please explain to me why a new, replacement color PCU unit would have toner on it when it is new coming out of the box? Do they ship it that way? Is there toner inside a PCU unit? If this is a photoconductor why would there be toner in it?

    the part number is 402525. I appreciate any insight into this

    thank you

    joe
  • GIUBOSS
    Service Manager

    Site Contributor
    1,000+ Posts
    • Jul 2013
    • 1329

    #2
    Re: Ricoh CL3000 Color PCU Unit leaking?

    it depends on how much toner, generally it should not be dirty but there may be a slight veiling of toner for factory tests but I would consider it negligible because it must have the seals in order not to spill the toner.
    Last edited by GIUBOSS; 04-25-2020, 04:15 PM.

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    • fshead
      Service Manager

      1,000+ Posts
      • Jan 2009
      • 2356

      #3
      Re: Ricoh CL3000 Color PCU Unit leaking?

      sometimes they use yellow toner as a drum lube to keep blade from flipping......
      Some drum do not ship well and depends too how it was boxxed.
      If it looks used then maybe you got taken...

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      • fshead
        Service Manager

        1,000+ Posts
        • Jan 2009
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        #4
        Re: Ricoh CL3000 Color PCU Unit leaking?

        Not one to throw away working machines i get in trade that machine from 2004..............
        AND YOU could buy a much better used replacement than wasting money on a 16 yr old printer...
        I could point you in if needed......Hows the fishing doing over there?
        I use to run up to SEABROOK,NEW HAMPSHIRE to fish in early may

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        • Joe L
          Junior Member
          • Apr 2020
          • 3

          #5
          Re: Ricoh CL3000 Color PCU Unit leaking?

          I thought some pictures might help. This unit appears to be new, but it is leaking all over. If it is a drum, why is there toner leaking out of it?DSC08102.jpgDSC08103.jpgDSC08104.jpgDSC08105.jpg

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          • mga
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            • Dec 2010
            • 1393

            #6
            Re: Ricoh CL3000 Color PCU Unit leaking?

            Originally posted by Joe L
            I thought some pictures might help. This unit appears to be new, but it is leaking all over. If it is a drum, why is there toner leaking out of it?[ATTACH=CONFIG]45548[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]45549[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]45550[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]45551[/ATTACH]
            Don't take the seals of and send it back {DON'T TRY TO USE}
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            • Joe L
              Junior Member
              • Apr 2020
              • 3

              #7
              Re: Ricoh CL3000 Color PCU Unit leaking?

              So...is there in fact toner inside of this unit? And how does that make sense if this unit also uses toner.....and this is a drum?

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              • Phil B.
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                • Jul 2016
                • 22808

                #8
                Re: Ricoh CL3000 Color PCU Unit leaking?

                Originally posted by Joe L
                So...is there in fact toner inside of this unit? And how does that make sense if this unit also uses toner.....and this is a drum?
                If I'm not mistaken there is also a dev unit for each color drum in the assembly.
                And yes there IS toner in drum assmy from assembly n test.

                Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

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                • slimslob
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                  • May 2013
                  • 35061

                  #9
                  Re: Ricoh CL3000 Color PCU Unit leaking?

                  If it is a complete PCDU them it does have developer in it. If it is just a PCU then there would be a small amount of toner and powder form the lube bar in the cleaning station. In either condition, they are all tested in a machine, usually attached to a yellow development unit for a PCU or the color it is going to be for a PCDU. After testing, the test developer is normally removed. For there to be toner on the outside as shown in your pictures, that would have had to have happened after the shipping covers were taped on for the toner to be on the tape. On the other hand for there to be more than one color, it had to have happened while the unit was in the test machine. That must have come from an after market source. If it came from Ricoh then someone is going to lose hid or her job. Fired for cause. Here in the US that means no unemployment check.

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                  • sandmanmac
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                    • Feb 2009
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                    #10
                    Re: Ricoh CL3000 Color PCU Unit leaking?

                    I never worked on these but if i remember correctly (and it appears to be the case), Yes, the C/Y/M PCDU's come as a complete assy with dev, included. So yes, they have toner in them.
                    Parts were discontinued for that printer in 2011, and the unit shown here could well have been manufactured many years before that, so I agree with Slim that this unit wasn't purchased from Ricoh direct, or a dealer, but rather Ebay or someplace like that.
                    Who knows where it's been, and what's happened to it over the last decade of bouncing around from dealer to dealer and liquidator to liquidator.
                    It's not overly surprising that it looks the way it does, and I imagine that returning it might not be an option. If not, you can just try to clean it up as best you can and then run some pages to clean up the drums, etc. It will likely make awful prints at first, but might improve as it runs a little.
                    TIP: toner particles are extremely fine. Tech vacuums have very specialized filters.
                    Toner will go right through the filter of a regular household vacuum and a shop vac is entirely out of the question. Compressed air is also not going to help your cause if you spray it in the wrong areas. So be careful how you choose to go about cleaning the units

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                    • TonerMunkeh
                      Professional Moron

                      2,500+ Posts
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 3873

                      #11
                      Re: Ricoh CL3000 Color PCU Unit leaking?

                      Originally posted by mga
                      Don't take the seals of and send it back {DON'T TRY TO USE}

                      Agreed, you don't know how long that unit has been sat on a shelf being bounced around, could be years.
                      It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

                      Hit it.

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                      • Oze
                        Ricoh Fanboy

                        1,000+ Posts
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 1663

                        #12
                        Re: Ricoh CL3000 Color PCU Unit leaking?

                        Originally posted by sandmanmac
                        I never worked on these but if i remember correctly (and it appears to be the case), Yes, the C/Y/M PCDU's come as a complete assy with dev, included. So yes, they have toner in them.
                        Parts were discontinued for that printer in 2011, and the unit shown here could well have been manufactured many years before that, so I agree with Slim that this unit wasn't purchased from Ricoh direct, or a dealer, but rather Ebay or someplace like that.
                        Who knows where it's been, and what's happened to it over the last decade of bouncing around from dealer to dealer and liquidator to liquidator.
                        It's not overly surprising that it looks the way it does, and I imagine that returning it might not be an option. If not, you can just try to clean it up as best you can and then run some pages to clean up the drums, etc. It will likely make awful prints at first, but might improve as it runs a little.
                        TIP: toner particles are extremely fine. Tech vacuums have very specialized filters.
                        Toner will go right through the filter of a regular household vacuum and a shop vac is entirely out of the question. Compressed air is also not going to help your cause if you spray it in the wrong areas. So be careful how you choose to go about cleaning the units
                        I agree...no way this was shipped from Ricoh.
                        Don't buy Craigslist parts people

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                        • fshead
                          Service Manager

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                          • Jan 2009
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                          #13
                          Re: Ricoh CL3000 Color PCU Unit leaking?

                          typical end user trying to save bucks and avoid paying a tech..............
                          And then want a lesson on copier construction......
                          If i bought something online and had issue I would
                          CONTACT WHERE I BOUGHT......NOT HERE..........

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