I've been using the Kyocera KM3050 copier for a few years and have found that its waste toner container needs to be replaced fairly frequently. The only way to get these containers is buy a toner cartridge, which comes with the container. The genuine Kyocera toner comes with two waste toner containers. The knock-off brands come with one only, or none at all. The problem is between toner replacements, we sometimes need to replace the container more than 2 times. We often end up opening up another box of toner and get another container. Has anyone run into this problem? Compounding it is the fact that we have not been able to find this container for sale individually. If we want extra containers, we have to buy new toner. Anyone has any luck finding these containers for sale?
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Re: Kyocera KM3050 - waste toner container sold individually??
A suggestion?: Those waste bottles are very easy to empty. No special cleaning required.
If you want to buy waste bottles, here is the part number: 2BL93130
(2BL93130) Toner Waste Bottle for the FS-9130DN and FS-9530DN, for the TK-70 and TK-712 **FREE Ground Shipping on orders over 100.00**
Here's another thing to consider: When you're using your generic toner a larger portion of the toner becomes waste. Isn't it counter-intuitive that they would provide you with less waste containers, not more? And how much money are you saving if the greater portion of your toner ends up in waste bottles? =^..^=Last edited by blackcat4866; 06-10-2015, 01:19 AM.If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.
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Re: Kyocera KM3050 - waste toner container sold individually??
Thanks, blackcat. Didn't know the container is so expensive, so I just might have to empty it myself like you suggested. I used to do that once, but felt like avoiding doing it if I could due to potential hazards. Sure it's easy to just pour the black powder out. But the difficult part is to make sure it is handled safely. Our city forbids us to dispose toxic material in the trash, so we have to send it to recycling facilities. Another reason I prefer using waste container is that it makes it easier for shipping it to recycling. I mean, if I pour out the toner, I have to find another container to contain it anyway in order to to make it transportable, and that becomes a potential messy thing.Comment
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Re: Kyocera KM3050 - waste toner container sold individually??
I think that you'll find about a thousand members here that will agree that it's quite manageable. We empty waste bottles as needed with no great risk. =^..^=If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.
blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=Comment
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Re: Kyocera KM3050 - waste toner container sold individually??
Even if you manage to pour out the toner, there is also the question of how you dispose of it. As I said, it is unlawful in our city to dump toxic waste into the trash, so you have to ship it to a recycling facility. One way is to ship it back to Kyocera. But Kyocera only accepts genuine Kyocera cartridges and containers.Comment
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If you look at the MSDS for the toner it is not tagged as a hazard. It says not have prolonged inhalation and don't burn. For disposal it says contact local officials. I would take a copy of the MSDS and ask some one in charge of hazard disposal and see the proper way of disposing of it.
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Re: Kyocera KM3050 - waste toner container sold individually??
But if everybody dumps waste toner into the trash and creates a mountain of toxic waste in the sidewalk right outside your home, then there WOULD be a health concern, wouldn't it? That's why these things are called environmentally hazardous material, because they create public health hazards if they are dumped in mass quantities. Many places, especially densely populated areas, have made it unlawful to dump them irresponsibly. Your PDF seems to be just consumer info, and says nothing about environmental hazards.
So my question remains: how do you dispose of the waste toner after you empty it from the waste toner container as the earlier poster suggested?Comment
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Toner is not hazardous.
If it were every copier tech in the world would have to wear protective gear when working on them.
I have even gotten 2 trashcans full of toner thrown at me as a joke. Still doing this 28 years later.
I do more damage to myself with smoking than I could ever do from toner.
It is only really flammable when airborne. Myth-busters did the same thing with coffee creamer.
If you are worried about your health, wear a mask and gloves.
The only thing waste toner can cause is embarrassment if you scratch your nose with your finger instead of your wrist or a face-full in my case.Why do they call it common sense?
If it were common, wouldn't everyone have it?Comment
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The issue isn't about copier techs working with equipments, but about what happens when toner becomes TRASH and how to dispose of it responsibly. When we use laser equipments, we don't really have too much direct contact with toner, because the toner is well-contained inside the equipment. It is when you take the toner out and try to dispose of it that you are DIRECTLY handling it and risking exposing it and being exposed to it. Do I make sense? And the sanitation workers who handle this stuff DO wear masks and goggles, I guarantee you. Your anecdote of pouring toner all over the body doesn't mean a thing, as the Kyocera PDF from the earlier poster already points out its hazards. So why the insistence that it is not hazardous?
So again, how do you guys dispose of your waste toner, or should I assume that most of you simply dump all your waste toner into the trash?Comment
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"So again, how do you guys dispose of your waste toner, or should I assume that most of you simply dump all your waste toner into the trash?"
In Australia we have the Clean Earth Campaign. Boxes are positioned in any office that wants them or at an Australia Post Office locally. They take ANY manufacturers old printer cartridges, waste toner containers, ink jet cartridges etc... They get made into garden edging or outside furniture etc.
Do you have that type of recycling in the USA?
It is, after all, a polymer. What do you do with your old milk cartons/ bottles and plastic packaging? Same deal. You could even put it in your local recycling bin for your private home. Do your councils run them in USA?
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In NYC, where it became illegal to dump electronics into the trash 6 months ago, it is still a hassle to dispose of electronic waste. Disposing of paper trash and hard plastic containers is easy, as there are ubiquitous street receptacles and garbage pickup services for them. For small electronic items like cellphones, batteries, portable players, etc., you usually need to find stores that accept them. Superstores usually accept them, and may even have convenient receptacles for them. But as you may know, not many superstores are allowed to exist in NYC in order to protect small businesses. For large electronic items, good luck. You either hope for a recycling "event" in your neighborhood (where some company would accept items en masse from everyone in the area), or you have find ways to ship them out to recycling facilities. You also hope that your electronic items are made by companies that offer free means of recycling, such as prepaid shipping label. Hewlett Packard toner cartridges come with free return UPS label in every box, as do Dell toner and drum cartridges. Kyocera carts, unfortunately, don't; their website also says you have to ship the carts back to them at your expense. And all these companies accept items made by themselves only. HP accepts only HP carts, Dell accepts its own items, Kyocera too. Gateway used to offer free online shipping labels for recycling any brand of electronic items, but it no longer does. It's hard to find a place that offers free shipping and accepts any brands. And if one does, it surely won't do it for long."So again, how do you guys dispose of your waste toner, or should I assume that most of you simply dump all your waste toner into the trash?"
In Australia we have the Clean Earth Campaign. Boxes are positioned in any office that wants them or at an Australia Post Office locally. They take ANY manufacturers old printer cartridges, waste toner containers, ink jet cartridges etc... They get made into garden edging or outside furniture etc.
Do you have that type of recycling in the USA?
It is, after all, a polymer. What do you do with your old milk cartons/ bottles and plastic packaging? Same deal. You could even put it in your local recycling bin for your private home. Do your councils run them in USA?
If you can't go to recycling events and can't ship them out, you will have to call a recycling company for pickup appointment, which of course is the most expensive means and is to be avoided. Fortunately, I have never had to resort to that.Comment
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Re: Kyocera KM3050 - waste toner container sold individually??
In NYC, where it became illegal to dump electronics into the trash 6 months ago, it is still a hassle to dispose of electronic waste. Disposing of paper trash and hard plastic containers is easy, as there are street receptacles and garbage pickup services for them. For small electronic items like cellphones, batteries, portable players, etc., you usually need to find stores that accept them. Superstores usually accept them, and may even have convenient receptacles for them. But as you may know, not many superstores are allowed to exist in NYC in order to protect small businesses. For large electronic items, good luck. You either hope for a recycling "event" in your neighborhood (where some company would accept items en masse from everyone in the area), or you have find ways to ship them out to recycling facilities. You also hope that your electronic items are made by companies that offer free means of recycling, such as prepaid shipping label. Hewlett Packard toner cartridges come with free return UPS label in every box, as do Dell toner and drum cartridges. Kyocera carts, unfortunately, don't; their website also says you have to ship the carts back to them at your expense. And all these companies accept items made by themselves only. HP accepts only HP carts, Dell accepts its own items, Kyocera too. Gateway used to offer free online shipping labels for recycling any brand of electronic items, but it no longer does. It's hard to find a place that offers free shipping and accepts any brands. And if one does, it surely won't do it for long."So again, how do you guys dispose of your waste toner, or should I assume that most of you simply dump all your waste toner into the trash?"
In Australia we have the Clean Earth Campaign. Boxes are positioned in any office that wants them or at an Australia Post Office locally. They take ANY manufacturers old printer cartridges, waste toner containers, ink jet cartridges etc... They get made into garden edging or outside furniture etc.
Do you have that type of recycling in the USA?
It is, after all, a polymer. What do you do with your old milk cartons/ bottles and plastic packaging? Same deal. You could even put it in your local recycling bin for your private home. Do your councils run them in USA?
If you can't go to recycling events, can't find stores that accept them, and can't ship them out, you will have to call a recycling company for pickup appointment, which of course is the most expensive means and is to be avoided. Fortunately, I have never had to resort to that.Comment
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People may frown on it, but here's what I do:
(1) remove the full toner bottle
(2) carefully (and I mean very carefully) empty the contents into a plastic bag as best as you can;
(3) wash the remainder of the contents in a sink;
(4) dry the container as best as you can;
(5) Carefully discard the old toner in the garbage
(6) put the container back into the machine. It's only plastic and should last a lifetime, or at least until you need new toner.Comment
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