Applying setting powder -- how exactly? how liberally, and to what?

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  • jay3
    Technician
    • Apr 2017
    • 46

    #1

    Applying setting powder -- how exactly? how liberally, and to what?

    I'm replacing a transfer belt on a C6500 and noticed in the instructions (so far) to apply setting powder:


    - "before installing belt cleaner unit, apply setting powder to...* "
    and

    - "to half the area of the transfer belt* "

    Where * seems to basically be the large area of transfer belt between the belt cleaner unit & separation claw assy.

    I read elsewhere that if you don't have OEM "setting powder" (which I don't have) you can use OEM yellow toner (which I have plenty).

    But how... to apply? I've never seen this done before. Does anyone have a video? Or really good text instructions?

    Thank you!
  • jay3
    Technician
    • Apr 2017
    • 46

    #2
    Re: Applying setting powder -- how exactly? how liberally, and to what?

    I think I did it right... but so far no good.

    C-4522 error upon reboot.

    Wiped the 2 sensors + gamma sensor with clean cotton cloth & rebooting again....

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    • jay3
      Technician
      • Apr 2017
      • 46

      #3
      Re: Applying setting powder -- how exactly? how liberally, and to what?

      Well... it works. Except there's some greasy scuffing track lines that you can see when the light hits prints a certain way.

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      • ysshin79
        Technician
        • May 2017
        • 37

        #4
        Re: Applying setting powder -- how exactly? how liberally, and to what?

        Originally posted by jay3
        I'm replacing a transfer belt on a C6500 and noticed in the instructions (so far) to apply setting powder:


        - "before installing belt cleaner unit, apply setting powder to...* "
        and

        - "to half the area of the transfer belt* "

        Where * seems to basically be the large area of transfer belt between the belt cleaner unit & separation claw assy.

        I read elsewhere that if you don't have OEM "setting powder" (which I don't have) you can use OEM yellow toner (which I have plenty).

        But how... to apply? I've never seen this done before. Does anyone have a video? Or really good text instructions?

        Thank you!

        Yes. Yellow toner(6501 toner) apply. No problem.

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        • blackcat4866
          Master Of The Obvious

          Site Contributor
          10,000+ Posts
          • Jul 2007
          • 22943

          #5
          Re: Applying setting powder -- how exactly? how liberally, and to what?

          Setting powder comes in a cloth bag that you can tap directly on the drum or belt without any resulting damage. Each time you tap the bag to the surface it gives you a roundish puff of powder. I'll dust about 1/3 of the transfer belt, rotate it 1/3, repeat two more times. If you've ever opened up an OEM drum, they come pre-dusted, as a reference.

          If you're using yellow toner, put it in a salt shaker. Only you can't tap it against the belt.

          If the cleaning blade doesn't flip, you did it right. =^..^=
          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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          • jay3
            Technician
            • Apr 2017
            • 46

            #6
            Re: Applying setting powder -- how exactly? how liberally, and to what?

            Originally posted by blackcat4866
            If the cleaning blade doesn't flip, you did it right. =^..^=
            Didn't flip .... but I wouldn't go so far as to say I did it right (see photo). Like your idea of salt shaker... thinking also maybe of one of those 99 cent store clear nozzle-tip condiment dispensers shake-up, puff a little out, repeat. Or thinking of how KM does it, maybe a satchel of some sort that allows it to puff out on same manner.

            gentle-dusting.jpg


            I had basically committed to.... "I will probably need to buy another transfer belt, but here goes nothing...." I essentially did it pinching and throwing a little at it Emeril Lagasse style then dabbed very gently (bad) with my freshly gloved finger.

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            • blackcat4866
              Master Of The Obvious

              Site Contributor
              10,000+ Posts
              • Jul 2007
              • 22943

              #7
              Re: Applying setting powder -- how exactly? how liberally, and to what?

              Not ideal, but certainly adequate. Next time lay the belt assembly flat on the table. =^..^=
              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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              • Phil B.
                Field Supervisor

                10,000+ Posts
                • Jul 2016
                • 22798

                #8
                Re: Applying setting powder -- how exactly? how liberally, and to what?

                Originally posted by jay3
                Didn't flip .... but I wouldn't go so far as to say I did it right (see photo). Like your idea of salt shaker... thinking also maybe of one of those 99 cent store clear nozzle-tip condiment dispensers shake-up, puff a little out, repeat. Or thinking of how KM does it, maybe a satchel of some sort that allows it to puff out on same manner.




                I had basically committed to.... "I will probably need to buy another transfer belt, but here goes nothing...." I essentially did it pinching and throwing a little at it Emeril Lagasse style then dabbed very gently (bad) with my freshly gloved finger.
                i have seen some guys use their wives old panty hose ( foot section ) and doubled it up with powder inside and lightly tap on drum or belt.. then store the remainder in a small ziplock baggie

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                • Desert Rat
                  Service Manager

                  Site Contributor
                  1,000+ Posts
                  • May 2008
                  • 1089

                  #9
                  Re: Applying setting powder -- how exactly? how liberally, and to what?

                  I use the Methuselah powder. It's alittle more expensive but it works great. A friend gave me half a bottle 3 years ago
                  and I still have about a quarter bottle left.
                  I have a very soft small cloth. Folded in fourths and I keep it in a zip lock baggy with some powder.
                  I can open the bag and tap on it and puff the powder out. It works so well I use very little. I can take the cloth
                  and gently wipe the transfer or drum blade for perfect pre-conditioning. A little more on the belt or drum, give it a turn
                  and you will notice how easy it turns and how fast it you get to that point where it turns easy.
                  I forgot where he got it at. I'll problably retire before I use it all.

                  DR

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